Canuck E Stan Posted March 16, 2006 Report Posted March 16, 2006 Radwanski charged with fraud and breach of trust Fraser discovered more than $500,000 in improper travel and hospitality expenses in the privacy commissioner's office.Radwanski, who was paid $210,000 annually, described the report as "vicious personal attack" that was filled with distortions. Martin said, "Radwanski seemed to typify everything that was wrong with these Ottawa mandarins who seemed to have a licence to wretched excess."It's actually gratifying for some of us who were there to see criminal charges laid," he said. Finally someone gets charged. NDP Pat Martin got it right, it is gratifying to see criminal charges laid. Who's next? Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
cybercoma Posted March 16, 2006 Report Posted March 16, 2006 This gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. I don't care if it's a CPC, LPC, Bloc or NDP member who gets charged. It's good to see something happen, finally. Quote
geoffrey Posted March 16, 2006 Report Posted March 16, 2006 He should be put in the stocks in a high traffic area of the city containing the most opposition voters. That would be effective punishment for our public officals. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Shakeyhands Posted March 16, 2006 Report Posted March 16, 2006 This gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. I don't care if it's a CPC, LPC, Bloc or NDP member who gets charged. It's good to see something happen, finally. Agreed. Unfortunately I dont think much will happen, they really should have to payback ALL the money s well as serve time incarcerated. Great news. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
August1991 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Posted March 16, 2006 He should be put in the stocks in a high traffic area of the city containing the most opposition voters. That would be effective punishment for our public officals.Maybe someone should behead him in a football pitch.Radwanski has been charged; he has not been found guilty. ---- George Radwanski wrote by far the best Trudeau biography, much better than Richard Gwyn's pretentious nonsense. In 1977, when Trudeau was facing electoral defeat in English Canada and the PQ in Quebec, he turned to Radwanski in desperation to get his message out. Trudeau, the intensely private individualist, answered questions because he thought it mattered. He chose Radwanski to record it all. IOW, Radwanski was an outsider, drawn into the Ottawa lifestyle by the federal Liberals. Radwanski never learned how to make a travel/hospitality claim. In a way, you gotta feel sorry for the guy. Well, I don't feel sorry for Radwanski but I don't think arbitrary vindictiveness will accomplish much in Ottawa. We punish people primarily as an incentive for others not to do wrong. To be effective, punishment should be an accurate signal. Well, Radwanski will get a suspended sentence, Dingwall will get his entitlements. Punishment in Ottawa is purely arbitrary. Arbitrary punishment is an incentive to avoid all risks, or an invitation to the foolhardy to believe they are lucky. Fate. (Ask Argus how civil servants respond to severe punishment visited randomly.) ---- At issue here is not Radwanski, and how much of our money he spent in Hull restaurants. Rather, the question is how to protect against the future Radwanskis (and the Dingwalls) in the year 2020. Random punishment will accomplish nothing. I invite the Left, those who argue for more government, to explain how they'll ensure government money goes to the homeless instead of the Radwanskis, Dingwalls and Chretiens of the future. Quote
geoffrey Posted March 16, 2006 Report Posted March 16, 2006 Good points August, I strongly agree. We shouldn't be looking at the past and placing blame, but instead look at the future and how to prevent more abuses. On the same thought though, a strict punishment would go a long way in showing that these actions are unacceptable and will be severely punished in Canada. There is no fear for these politicans as they often just get house arrest for a few weeks and need to give a couple lectures at universities. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Nocrap Posted March 16, 2006 Report Posted March 16, 2006 He should be put in the stocks in a high traffic area of the city containing the most opposition voters. That would be effective punishment for our public officals.Maybe someone should behead him in a football pitch.Radwanski has been charged; he has not been found guilty. ---- George Radwanski wrote by far the best Trudeau biography, much better than Richard Gwyn's pretentious nonsense. In 1977, when Trudeau was facing electoral defeat in English Canada and the PQ in Quebec, he turned to Radwanski in desperation to get his message out. Trudeau, the intensely private individualist, answered questions because he thought it mattered. He chose Radwanski to record it all. IOW, Radwanski was an outsider, drawn into the Ottawa lifestyle by the federal Liberals. Radwanski never learned how to make a travel/hospitality claim. In a way, you gotta feel sorry for the guy. Well, I don't feel sorry for Radwanski but I don't think arbitrary vindictiveness will accomplish much in Ottawa. We punish people primarily as an incentive for others not to do wrong. To be effective, punishment should be an accurate signal. Well, Radwanski will get a suspended sentence, Dingwall will get his entitlements. Punishment in Ottawa is purely arbitrary. Arbitrary punishment is an incentive to avoid all risks, or an invitation to the foolhardy to believe they are lucky. Fate. (Ask Argus how civil servants respond to severe punishment visited randomly.) ---- At issue here is not Radwanski, and how much of our money he spent in Hull restaurants. Rather, the question is how to protect against the future Radwanskis (and the Dingwalls) in the year 2020. Random punishment will accomplish nothing. I invite the Left, those who argue for more government, to explain how they'll ensure government money goes to the homeless instead of the Radwanskis, Dingwalls and Chretiens of the future. I consider myself to be left of centre, but have never believed that we need MORE government. Egads! There's far too much money going out to bureacrats now. I am also pleased that criminal charges are being laid and that we are able to get some of our money back. Politicians should be treated like anyone else when it comes to breaking the law and I hope to see more actions like this in the future, especially with regards to the sponsorship scandal, which is not really a scandal so much as it is CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. Quote
mcqueen625 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Posted March 16, 2006 Radwanski charged with fraud and breach of trust Fraser discovered more than $500,000 in improper travel and hospitality expenses in the privacy commissioner's office.Radwanski, who was paid $210,000 annually, described the report as "vicious personal attack" that was filled with distortions. Martin said, "Radwanski seemed to typify everything that was wrong with these Ottawa mandarins who seemed to have a licence to wretched excess."It's actually gratifying for some of us who were there to see criminal charges laid," he said. Finally someone gets charged. NDP Pat Martin got it right, it is gratifying to see criminal charges laid. Who's next? It is in fact good to see someone charged, but charged is all he has been, we'll see if he is convicted, and if convicted we'll see if the punishment fits with what an ordinary Canadian can expect if they commit the same type crime. I doubt if the same sentencing guidelines apply to politicians or beaueaucrats as it applies to the rest of us. Call me cynical but until I see one of these thieves actually behind bars I will remain sceptical. Quote
Spike22 Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 Radwanski charged with fraud and breach of trust Fraser discovered more than $500,000 in improper travel and hospitality expenses in the privacy commissioner's office.Radwanski, who was paid $210,000 annually, described the report as "vicious personal attack" that was filled with distortions. Martin said, "Radwanski seemed to typify everything that was wrong with these Ottawa mandarins who seemed to have a licence to wretched excess."It's actually gratifying for some of us who were there to see criminal charges laid," he said. Finally someone gets charged. NDP Pat Martin got it right, it is gratifying to see criminal charges laid. Who's next? It is in fact good to see someone charged, but charged is all he has been, we'll see if he is convicted, and if convicted we'll see if the punishment fits with what an ordinary Canadian can expect if they commit the same type crime. I doubt if the same sentencing guidelines apply to politicians or beaueaucrats as it applies to the rest of us. Call me cynical but until I see one of these thieves actually behind bars I will remain sceptical. You got taht right. I highly doubt he will do any hard time. It still amazes me that with a ll the rules of the financial act and other government regulations they still continue to break/bend/twist the rules. My question os who the hell is their executive assistants and financial folks? They are the week kneed people who should be informing their superiors they are breaking the law and then reporting it accordingly if they don;t correct the situation. You would be out of a job by doing the right thing. Oops sorry there are no ethics in government circles what was I thinking. Quote
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