New US Republican talking point for Iraq war

[gerryhatrick]

Here's a video link of the new US Republican majority leader telling us that the Iraq war

"may not benefit our generation, but for our kids and theirs, this maybe the greatest gift we give them."

Is this the new talking point? Those US Conservatives are famous for speaking in unison....and this guy mentioned this idea twice during his interview.

Smart I guess. It allows them to diminish the current negative fallout by pointing at some future yet to be realized benifit as a "greatest gift" that we can give.

Also called Iraq an "investment" that "kids and grandkids" will be benificiaries of.

Same point, made twice at different times in the interview. Yep, they have a new talking point!

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/02/05.html#a7020

[tml12]

Here's a video link of the new US Republican majority leader telling us that the Iraq war

"may not benefit our generation, but for our kids and theirs, this maybe the greatest gift we give them."

Is this the new talking point? Those US Conservatives are famous for speaking in unison....and this guy mentioned this idea twice during his interview.

Smart I guess. It allows them to diminish the current negative fallout by pointing at some future yet to be realized benifit as a "greatest gift" that we can give.

Also called Iraq an "investment" that "kids and grandkids" will be benificiaries of.

Same point, made twice at different times in the interview. Yep, they have a new talking point!

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/02/05.html#a7020

I was not favour of the Iraq war but I am in favour of democratizing Iraq today.

You know, democracy, something that will benefit the children of Iraq?

[gerryhatrick]

I was not favour of the Iraq war but I am in favour of democratizing Iraq today.

You know, democracy, something that will benefit the children of Iraq?

Half of Iraqis want US troops out within 6 months and nearly half approve of attacks on US led forces.

So...what about that democracy?

The point is that many people are of the opinion - and polls like the one described above support it - that the violence will not abate until the US leaves.

In other words...things will improve once the US is out.

Iraqi insurgents will focus thier wrath on the terrorists who have been killing Iraqis once the US leaves.

[tml12]

I was not favour of the Iraq war but I am in favour of democratizing Iraq today.

You know, democracy, something that will benefit the children of Iraq?

Half of Iraqis want US troops out within 6 months and nearly half approve of attacks on US led forces.

So...what about that democracy?

The point is that many people are of the opinion - and polls like the one described above support it - that the violence will not abate until the US leaves.

In other words...things will improve once the US is out.

Iraqi insurgents will focus thier wrath on the terrorists who have been killing Iraqis once the US leaves.

The U.S. will leave when Iraq is more stable.

[geoffrey]

I was not favour of the Iraq war but I am in favour of democratizing Iraq today.

You know, democracy, something that will benefit the children of Iraq?

Half of Iraqis want US troops out within 6 months and nearly half approve of attacks on US led forces.

So...what about that democracy?

The point is that many people are of the opinion - and polls like the one described above support it - that the violence will not abate until the US leaves.

In other words...things will improve once the US is out.

Iraqi insurgents will focus thier wrath on the terrorists who have been killing Iraqis once the US leaves.

I'm sure polling is accurate in 3rd world countries where most people have no phones. Do you have any proof this is what they think? I'd like to see the poll.

[jafridi]

The US Republican majority leader should do some due diligence to guage the quality of investment he has made for his children and grand children. He should take a short unescorted walk in Baghdad and meet his subjects/ peasants. It would be interesting to watch how long he lasts? Any Guess?

[YankAbroad]

Ironically, he's not mentioning the Republican Socialists's massive, crushing debt -- heavily influenced by this laughable joke of a "war" -- which will also be left to our grandchildren (and their grandchildren, at the present rate).

[durok]

I figure there'll be unwelcome U.S. troops in Iraq for decades after Iraq has become a 'democracy' (elected their own government). The U.S. is building large U.S. bases in the Iraqi desert right now (4 huge ones) that they'll likely occupy for a century or more. Iraqis are very sectarian and will vote for their religious leaders .... Iraq will become another Iran and the Imams and Ayatollahs will govern (with the people's consent). The U.S. bases will resemble Guantanamo in Cuba .... it's there although the Cubans wish it weren't. The day will come when Americans (and other westerners too) will wish that secular Sadam Hussein was back in power.

[Zues]

Dear Mr. Dubya...

Iraq IS NOT a democracy! Iraq is an occupied nation state that will fall into civil war as soon as American bayonets are removed. Your joke of a head of state in Afghaistan doesn't even rule further than the limits of the capital city... that's why he's known as the "mayor" of Kabul!

I wish that instead of snorting coke and getting drunk you would have studied history while you were at Harvard and Yale.

Didn't you ever read "The Prince" by Machiavelli? You should take the time to have Lady Bush read to you... as a bedtime story... what old Niccolo has to say about a "prince" that stupidly makes an enemy stronger... think Iran here Georgie... why? Because of one word... Shi´ites! Opps!

You could have simply launched missiles. You could have invaded, captured and/or killed Saddam, declared victory and gotten the hell out of there. Democracies... especially young, fragile democracies are what people like Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolinni, Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, and Chavistas use to sieze power and make a mockery of freedom!

Haven't you noticed that all those neoconservative gangsters that advise you almost all have a Trokskyist history? Jewish intellectuals and social-democratic world hegemony... ummmmm... no parallels close to that in history!

[GostHacked]

I figure there'll be unwelcome U.S. troops in Iraq for decades after Iraq has become a 'democracy' (elected their own government). The U.S. is building large U.S. bases in the Iraqi desert right now (4 huge ones) that they'll likely occupy for a century or more. Iraqis are very sectarian and will vote for their religious leaders .... Iraq will become another Iran and the Imams and Ayatollahs will govern (with the people's consent). The U.S. bases will resemble Guantanamo in Cuba .... it's there although the Cubans wish it weren't. The day will come when Americans (and other westerners too) will wish that secular Sadam Hussein was back in power.

Any hard evidence on those bases?? And where abouts they are?? That would be interesting to know just the location of those bases.

Democracy comes from within. If the current ideology does not work then it is time for a revolution. Any country that wants change will do it from within. It cannot come from outside, it will fail.

If the Iraqis wanted the freedom they would have done it themselves.

[flashman]

Here's a video link of the new US Republican majority leader telling us that the Iraq war

"may not benefit our generation, but for our kids and theirs, this maybe the greatest gift we give them."

Is this the new talking point? Those US Conservatives are famous for speaking in unison....and this guy mentioned this idea twice during his interview.

Smart I guess. It allows them to diminish the current negative fallout by pointing at some future yet to be realized benifit as a "greatest gift" that we can give.

Also called Iraq an "investment" that "kids and grandkids" will be benificiaries of.

Same point, made twice at different times in the interview. Yep, they have a new talking point!

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/02/05.html#a7020

He's obviously in the pay of the Bumper Sticker Industry. They have made a fortune first with products based on the WMD Threat, then the El Qaeda Connection, then Freedom and Democracy and now it's about a Gift to Our Kids.

[Social Revolutionist]

You could have simply launched missiles. You could have invaded, captured and/or killed Saddam, declared victory and gotten the hell out of there. Democracies... especially young, fragile democracies are what people like Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolinni, Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, and Chavistas use to sieze power and make a mockery of freedom!

I would just like to point out that Lenin and Stalin did not seize power from democracies. Lenin seized power from a monarchy (tsars), and Stalin was chosen by the rest of the communist party to lead after Lenin's death. And Lenin did really make a mockery of freedom, it was Stalin who really did the damage. Just thought I'd point that out.