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Ok I am a young man, and I am just getting into politics. I know the Liberals I know what they stand for, I know the Conservatives and what they stand for and the NDP I'm little less clear on but I think I got the basic idea. The Quebec Quo and I dunno if I am spelling it right (I tried to look up the right spelling on the net by looking for quebec goverment and crap like that but I could find it anywhere) I have no idea what the want or what the stand for. When the election was going on a few years ago I saw ads for the Liberals, Conservatives and NDP all on tv and lots of campaigneing but never did I see one ad for the Quebec Quo. So the Quebec Quo is not running for leadership of the country? If their not running for leadership of the country why do they even have a say in politics? I am confused someone help a young Canadian out and tell me what the Quebec Quo purpose is?

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Ok I am a young man, and I am just getting into politics. I know the Liberals I know what they stand for, I know the Conservatives and what they stand for and the NDP I'm little less clear on but I think I got the basic idea. The Quebec Quo and I dunno if I am spelling it right (I tried to look up the right spelling on the net by looking for quebec goverment and crap like that but I could find it anywhere) I have no idea what the want or what the stand for. When the election was going on a few years ago I saw ads for the Liberals, Conservatives and NDP all on tv and lots of campaigneing but never did I see one ad for the Quebec Quo. So the Quebec Quo is not running for leadership of the country? If their not running for leadership of the country why do they even have a say in politics? I am confused someone help a young Canadian out and tell me what the Quebec Quo purpose is?

I think instead of "Quebec Quo", you mean "Quebecois".

Quebecois simply means "from Quebec".

There are two parties with "Quebecois" in their name:

Bloc Quebecois (Federal)

and Parti Quebecois (Provincial in Quebec)

“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” - Thomas Jefferson

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Renegade

You wrote- " I am confused, someone help a young Candian out and tell me what the Quebec Quo is?"

You explained it better when suggesting what is the purpose of Quebec in federal politics concerning it's non- existent national federal parties when Quebec parties don't participate in national parties.

This is a good question and a question that has left many Canadians scratching their heads over.

As far as I am concerned Quebec political parties cater to Quebec nationalism and ignore the rest of Canada but expect other federal national parties to cater to it's politcal demands.

The Liberals are the only national party to make headway into Quebec but only at the expense of allowing the existence of a Quebec Wing Liberal party, giving away significant federal powers to Quebec including generous funding of programs, the movement of significant parts of federal real estate and departments into Quebec, implementing a discriminatory over represented bilingual language policy within the federal government and promoting bilingual policies outside of federal jurisdiction into provinces excluding though Quebec itself.

What does Quebec really want?

I think it wants independent cultural indepedence funded by the rest of Canada-which I think it is close to now or a form of minority cultural control of Canada based on bilingual policies.

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Your problably talking about the bloc quebecois wich is in the current federal election.

Quebecois is the french word for quebeckers

Ok, to make it simple, quebeckers where voting massivly and almost uninamously voting liberal until the 80's when Pierre elliot trudeau (a liberal leader) changed the constitution to give more power to the federal government without the consentment of the quebec government. The quebec government frustrated, refused to sign the constitution.

Then the liberal federal opposant at that time, Brian murloney's conservative party, promised quebeckers to change the constitution to reintegrate quebec to the constitution. They totally crushed the liberals then over two mandate tried twice to change the constitution but failed twice (meech accord, charletown accord). The conservative government at that time splitted up to create the bloc québécois wich was made of quebec politicians frustrated over the current constitution. This party only present candidate and ads in quebec( In other word they will never be able to form a government) then the conservative splitted up to create the reform party.

However, the canadian political climate seems to make it impossible for a quebeckers to be against the current constitution and ask for change without being an evil separatist that want to break up the country. This attitude pushed frustrated quebeckers to the sovreignist camp (quebeckers that want an independant quebec).

The other quebeckers to counter the sovreignist camp all went to the liberal party wich explain why harper and the ndp can't get any deputy in quebec.

So this climate explain exaclty what is going on in quebec right now, we are trapped into two vision wich are of about equal in force, 50% vs 50%. One that vote for the bloc and the other that vote for the liberals. However its always harder for the liberal to make federalist vote for them because of scandals and etc...

In other word, the Bloc quebecois is their to represent the sovreignist camp wich wants an independant quebec. It partly explain why we have a minority government instead of a conservative government and why the liberals are in power since 1993.

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Once again, Bakunin, pure rubbish and balderdash. The Constitution was not changed and the federal government achieved no new powers.

The only change of note was to provide for an amending formula for the Constitution that had been sought since 1931 but had been impossible because ofprovincial obstinacy.

That change was finally agreed with the agreement of all provinces including Quebec. The decision not to sign the Constitution - not necessary, btw, was purely a political ploy playing to the victimization syndrome in Quebec: a syndrome you have in spades.

If anything, the patriated Constitution gave more power to the provinces since the federal government can no longer change the federal Constitution without Provincial approval.

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