shoop Posted August 12, 2005 Report Posted August 12, 2005 I voted "absolutely nothing" as that's what I think Harper's electoral prospects amount to.Seems like a relatively fine fellow and reasonably intelligent, but the baggage of the Alberta Reform block is like an albatross around the neck of any leader they might replace him with, so that's a moot point (Preston, Stockwell or Harper, doesn't make any difference at all - same game). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hmmm, Michael I'm a little confused. Over on the "Should Harper Be Replaced?" thread you said "Harper is making me homesick for Preston. Anyone who can make Preston look attractive to an urban intellectual from Toronto, really is a poor electoral choice." So does Harper make Preston look attractive to you or are they the 'same game'? You also didn't answer the earlier question. As a self-proclaimed "urban intellectual from Toronto" do you work at Chapters or Starbucks? Mirror, what is the source for your news story? Might help answer your question about the Environics poll being an outlier. (If that is indeed what you meant. Never heard the term rogue poll before...) You gotta understand how a story like that, which isn't in any mainstream news outlets I have been able to find, and a poster who uses stuff from rabble, makes you wonder about the source. Quote
mirror Posted August 12, 2005 Author Report Posted August 12, 2005 I voted "absolutely nothing" as that's what I think Harper's electoral prospects amount to.Seems like a relatively fine fellow and reasonably intelligent, but the baggage of the Alberta Reform block is like an albatross around the neck of any leader they might replace him with, so that's a moot point (Preston, Stockwell or Harper, doesn't make any difference at all - same game). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hmmm, Michael I'm a little confused. Over on the "Should Harper Be Replaced?" thread you said "Harper is making me homesick for Preston. Anyone who can make Preston look attractive to an urban intellectual from Toronto, really is a poor electoral choice." So does Harper make Preston look attractive to you or are they the 'same game'? You also didn't answer the earlier question. As a self-proclaimed "urban intellectual from Toronto" do you work at Chapters or Starbucks? Mirror, what is the source for your news story? Might help answer your question about the Environics poll being an outlier. (If that is indeed what you meant. Never heard the term rogue poll before...) You gotta understand how a story like that, which isn't in any mainstream news outlets I have been able to find, and a poster who uses stuff from rabble makes you wonder about the source. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually you might want to check today's National Post for the quote - but I suppose that paper is not right wing enough for you. You really are a lightweight, that's obvious. The reality is that it has been a disasterous year politically for the Cons so I see no reason to suspect they would be doing well in the polls although I do respect Environics more than a lot of the other polling firms that seem to be connected to one political party or another. Quote
shoop Posted August 12, 2005 Report Posted August 12, 2005 Actually you might want to check today's National Post for the quote - but I suppose that paper is not right wing enough for you. You really are a lightweight, that's obvious. The reality is that it has been a disasterous year politically for the Cons so I see no reason to suspect they would be doing well in the polls although I do respect Environics more than a lot of the other polling firms that seem to be connected to one political party or another. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You are one interesting cat. Continually attacking the right with support from Rabble, yet you read the National Post? Hmm in the last 18 months Harper successfully pulled of the merger, came close to winning a minority government in an election that started with talk of Paul Martin winning a record number of seats and came within one vote of defeating PM Dithers. Disastrous .... no! I think the environics poll shows that Harper's bbq tour has had a positive effect. Whether or not he can maintain the momentum come September when people start paying attention to politics again is another matter. Still no word from Mad Michael. I wonder if he is busy serving a double-soy milk-non fat latte. Quote
mirror Posted August 12, 2005 Author Report Posted August 12, 2005 There is not one other poll that is showing what Environics is showing so I will be prudent and wait for the next series of polls to confirm or disprove what the other polls are showing - that the Liberals are getting close to forming a majority government. The fact that Harper has to pay people $5. each to come and talk with him is NOT a very good sign to say the least. Quote
shoop Posted August 12, 2005 Report Posted August 12, 2005 Hmmm, The environics poll is show the peaking of a trend. NO poll since this year has shown the Liberals getting 'close' to a majority. The best they have seen would be ten more seats. Five each in BC and Ontario. They aren't showing growth anywhere else. Quebec is still dead for them. The 'historic breakthrough' in the Prairies has been forgotten almost as quicky as the democratic reform agenda. No other outlets have run this $5 payment story. Funny how it can't be found on the National Post web site either... Could it be that Rabble, CBC and the Toronto Star are conspiring to support Stephen Harper. Quote
Leader Circle Posted August 12, 2005 Report Posted August 12, 2005 Hmmm, The environics poll is show the peaking of a trend. NO poll since this year has shown the Liberals getting 'close' to a majority. The best they have seen would be ten more seats. Five each in BC and Ontario. They aren't showing growth anywhere else. Quebec is still dead for them. The 'historic breakthrough' in the Prairies has been forgotten almost as quicky as the democratic reform agenda. No other outlets have run this $5 payment story. Funny how it can't be found on the National Post web site either... Could it be that Rabble, CBC and the Toronto Star are conspiring to support Stephen Harper. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Shoop, I do believe you have uncovered a conspiracy here with Harper & the CBC. LOL It amazes me, how much the Liberals can actually do to try to ruin a man's reputation. When you have many of the major media outlets on your side, you can do great things! Quote Why pay money to have your family tree traced; go into politics and your opponents will do it for you. ~Author Unknown
shoop Posted August 12, 2005 Report Posted August 12, 2005 Shoop, I do believe you have uncovered a conspiracy here with Harper & the CBC.LOL It amazes me, how much the Liberals can actually do to try to ruin a man's reputation. When you have many of the major media outlets on your side, you can do great things! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Touche. I guess they had to balance things out. Martin gets to slide on picking an alleged separatist to be GG as opposed to Harper buying a couple kids some blizzards out of pocket. Quote
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