Judge Gomery

[The Terrible Sweal]

I've heard the Gomery has a high personal popularity rating in Quebec right now. Can anyone tell me about this?

[Bakunin]

I've heard the Gomery has a high personal popularity rating in Quebec right now.  Can anyone tell me about this?

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Well, i think people like his style, sometime funny, sometime angry or more comprehensive . It depend of the cooperation of the people. With numerous scandal, jean chretiens and his administration where already not very well seen and popular. People are happy to see that finally we can know the truth and the comission wasn't just an amnesic party with a bought judge.

It's a little bit funny because there are 2 types of people at the comission. The one that refuse to talk and don't remember anything and the one that decide to talk and participate. In general the people that talked like jean brault where applaud even if they did wrong stuff, at least they talked and admitted it i guess thats what ppl think.

[Guest eureka]

And everyone in Quebec believes that Brault told the truth in its entirety simply because he talked AND because they are told to believe it. Even though he has been contradicted by others.

Pathetic!

[Bakunin]

And everyone in Quebec believes that Brault told the truth in its entirety simply because he talked AND because they are told to believe it. Even though he has been contradicted by others.

Pathetic!

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brault, renaud, corbeil, beliveau, desaine are the one who talked. And combined it seems to be a good start to understand the truth, toghether they didnt contradict themselve pretty much.

On the other hand, ppl that keep saying they don't remember anything, well how can they defend themself if they don't remember ?

[Guest eureka]

You must be hearing only the part of the testimomy that you want to hear.

[Bakunin]

You must be hearing only the part of the testimomy that you want to hear.

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What did i miss ?

by the way, Paul Coffin pleads guilty to fraud charges.

[fellowtraveller]

Too bad Coffin pled guilty, we 'd have had some chance to hear the truth from witnesses during trial, witnesses subject to perjury charges, witnesses that would be obliged to answer.

Gomery is toothless, whcih Martin knows all too well.

[I Miss Trudeau]

Gomery is toothless, whcih Martin knows all too well.

Well of course Gomery is "toothless;" its an inquiry, not a trial.

[Sir Chauncy]

The whole affair was a waste of tax dollars as nothing, or little will come of it as usual when Government is involved.

Unless a real court triall comes about and some politicians see prison, then why bother with shows like this.

Real strong toothed accountability needs to come into politics in Canada. In fact, in every country.

Chretien and Martin are both as guilty as sin and every honest person knows it.

But as usual, they will walk, at best a small slap on their wrists.

Sir Chauncy

[Bakunin]

The comission did is work, it showed the population what was behind the last 10 years of politics, but the majority of the population prefered to close their eye instead of seeing the reality.

Thats partly why canada will explode, because evrytime we have to face problem, we refuse to see em and act. Thats true for our healthcare system, thats true about getting rid of the liberal party, thats also true about canadian unity and alot of other problem.

People just scare too easily about change... terrified about getting a conservative government, terrified about changing our healtcare system and etc...

Just like the american...

[Dwight_McCarthy]

Canadian's seem like sheep to me, these days. Our government comes under fire for THEFT of our own money, and people rush to the support of the same jerks that have had control of the goverment (basically unchallenged) for 40+ years ( minus the 8 Mulroney sat through). Chretien has been a descision maker since the sixties- thats too much power for far too long. When it comes to politics, everyone should have an expiration date. Though I find the American system to be faulty in many places, they have it right when it comes to kicking Presidents out after two terms and electing judges (so they're impartial judiciary is acctually impartial). We seem like sheep because we blindly follow the one protecting us from the perceived wolves, those damned Conservatives. We'll believe anything our Liberal herders tell us- that they'll run us into the ground and take away human rights, yadda yadda. I'm not saying the PC's are better, I just find it appalling that people buy into the b.s. they feed us. This Inquiry will end like the Micheal Jackson case. Everyone suspects somethign- just look how shady they are! Noone will get the axe though. Shame.

[mcqueen625]

And everyone in Quebec believes that Brault told the truth in its entirety simply because he talked AND because they are told to believe it. Even though he has been contradicted by others.

Pathetic!

I get it, you choose to believe instead that the Liberals are lily-white, would never tell a lie ,and are not the most corrupt government in the history of Canada. Which is why you'll rush right out and vote for them again. now that's pathetic!

I can't stand Mulroney because he and his colleagues were definitely corrupt, but the Chretien/Martin Team have given new meaning to the term corruption and thievery. I link the two, Chretien and Martin simply because both were part of the same government at the same time as all of this scandal went down, and Martin has done nothing to distance himself from this mess. He has in fact kept many of the same peole around him as were around Chretien. Talk about perpetuating the problem.

[Guest eureka]

I choose to believe what is believable and provable. Your insinuations are scurrilous. There has been no evidence and no testimony that supports them. If Gomery concludes after weighing all the evidence that there is some basis for those allegations, then we will all have to rethink.

Meantime, your statements are simply libelous.

[Cartman]

Our government comes under fire for THEFT of our own money, and people rush to the support of the same jerks that have had control of the goverment (basically unchallenged) for 40+ years ( minus the 8 Mulroney sat through).

Gee, kinda makes you wonder what might have happened during those 8 years of Mulroney that has terrified Canadians so badly.

[Hawk]

What I find amusing is how Mulroney is still remembered as a corrupt, terrible politician after all this time... by the same people that are constantly voting in the Liberal government =p

Mulroney - Introduces GST to replace FST, shifting taxation off corporations and broaden out the load. Liberals use this to overturn his government, all the while promising to destroy the tax if they are elected. Liberals are elected and suddenly they realize the tax was needed, so we still have it. Canadians use Mulroney as a scapegoat for decades, and the Liberals still have people terrified of letting in another Conservative government =p

Chretian/Martin - Get caught in countless scandals and legal issues, investigated for anything from syphoning funding to many dummy programs to outright funding of campaign supporters. Billions missing and unaccounted for. Canadians continue to re-elect them regardless, anyone daring to question the wisdom of the Liberals is branded a fascist and an irrational fear of another Mulroney continues to keep the Conservatives out of power.

Makes you wonder who the real idiots are (rednecks? I think not)

[Cartman]

What I find amusing is how Mulroney is still remembered as a corrupt, terrible politician after all this time... by the same people that are constantly voting in the Liberal government

I agree with you to an extent. In fact, I would add that the Chretien/Martin Liberals have done much to harm our welfare state. So, why are people voting for them as opposed to say, voting Conservative, NDP or even forming another political party?

I reject your suggestion that only stupid or paranoid people vote Liberal. And I am no Liberal BTW.

[BHS]

I choose to believe what is believable and provable. Your insinuations are scurrilous. There has been no evidence and no testimony that supports them. If Gomery concludes after weighing all the evidence that there is some basis for those allegations, then we will all have to rethink.

Meantime, your statements are simply libelous.

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Do you work for Warren Kinsella? Never mind. Don't want to be opening myself up for spurious legal action.

So where did all the cash go? Was the auditor general hallucinating? Seems to me a lot of money poured into Quebec that can't be accounted for. I wouldn't go so far as to accuse anyone of theft, but really the only alternative is monumental incompetence. So which is it?

To go one further, let's review the Grandmere Inn debacle. A reporter uncovers what he believes is evidence that PM Cretien's personal holding company was owed 20 grand by the guy he later arranged a loan for with the BDC, a loan that had previously been turned down because it didn't meet the BDC's criteria. This is a clear conflict of interest, which the PMO denied by stating that the document in the journalist's possession was a forgery. So we're left with two alternatives: either the PM used his influence to ensure money owed to him could be repaid, or someone was trying to frame the Prime Minister of Canada for doing the same.

The RCMP reviewed the situation, decided everything was cool, no harm no foul, and let the case drop. I guess the either/or situation was a false dilemma. I just wish they'd clue the rest of us in on what's really going on. Maybe you can fill me in.

So, do you I'm unreasonable for coming to negative assumptions about the people you're defending? I'm not saying they're cheats, and liars, and theives, just that they look, quack and waddle that way.

[Hawk]

What I find amusing is how Mulroney is still remembered as a corrupt, terrible politician after all this time... by the same people that are constantly voting in the Liberal government

I agree with you to an extent. In fact, I would add that the Chretien/Martin Liberals have done much to harm our welfare state. So, why are people voting for them as opposed to say, voting Conservative, NDP or even forming another political party?

I reject your suggestion that only stupid or paranoid people vote Liberal. And I am no Liberal BTW.

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In light of the actions made public about Liberal corruption, anyone that still trusts them to run our country is, by definition, stupid or paranoid.

At least we agreed on some haha =p

[Redneck Yokel]

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[mockingbird]

Canadians continue to re-elect them regardless, anyone daring to question the wisdom of the Liberals is branded a fascist and an irrational fear of another Mulroney continues to keep the Conservatives out of power.

The liberals are scum, but the conservatives would be disasterous for social assistance programs.

[PocketRocket]

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Likewise.