KalosSkilo Posted May 22, 2005 Report Posted May 22, 2005 Peter Hammond A great man, Peter Hammond was born in Cape Town in 1960, brought up in Zimbabwe. He became a Christian and married his wife Lenora Hammond, and has four children. They have all been doing missionary work in Africa. His wife and her father has been doing missionary work in Eastern Europe for decades. This man has been on the front lines in Sudan for over 10 years. He has been captured and tortured by Muslims and Arabs who wish nothing more than the destruction of all other cultures. This man along with help from his team have built hundreds of schools, churches, libraries and hospitals in Sudan. For almost 2,000 years Arabs and Africans have been fighting for political and religious power. The Muslim Arabs control Most the Northern half of the continent, and the Christian Africans control most of the South. The Arabs want to Islamify the entire continent and have killed, tortured and destroyed who ever got in there way. These bastards are killing innocent kids and women because they dont want to be Muslims. Peter Hammond is in his 2 months off from his work in Sudan to come to America and gain support and tell the story. I would ask any of you who care to offer your prayers and support to Peter Hammond and the work forces helping the Sudan. Pray for him, pray for Africa, the innocent being slaughtered by hateful militants, and all the people resisting the hostile takeover by Arab extremists. I would ask you all to give a dollar, just a dollar. But I expect nothing. If you want to support him financially as well as spirtually, send me a PM. Thankyou Quote
Melanie_ Posted May 30, 2005 Report Posted May 30, 2005 I think you are simplifying Africa's woes to blame them completely on the Muslim/Christian issue. Much of Africa was colonized by the Europeans, and in particular Great Britain, whose motto was "divide and conquor". Thus, borders were drawn so that traditional tribal groups found themselves in different countries, sharing the land with other tribal groups that didn't share their culture, language, traditions, etc. As long as the Europeans could keep the Africans fighting each other, and convince each that they were the preferred tribal group, they could maintain power. Meanwhile, they brought white collar labour over from India, creating a class of bank clerks, junior accountants, etc., who also had an investment in keeping the Africans out of power. As the Europeans left, and the African people had the opportunity to create their own regimes, they had no depth to their political experience, and have had a succession of power hungry dictators. Tribes want their traditional lands to be returned to the borders that made sense to them, rather than those drawn for the express purpose of causing war (a perfect example of this is the Tutsis and Hutus of Rwanda). I agree that we need to do something about Sudan. We have a moral responsibility to take action to help prevent the genocide of Rwanda from happening again. But lets look at all of the issues here, not just the ones that are most easily seen, and judged, from the surface. Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
Army Guy Posted June 6, 2005 Report Posted June 6, 2005 How long do we have to look and study the issues...Our PM handled thier leader not like an equal but one of a third world country ...telling him he would send Canada's military down to assist....instead of asking if he could help...did not help matters either... My Webpage Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Argus Posted June 6, 2005 Report Posted June 6, 2005 How long do we have to look and study the issues...Our PM handled thier leader not like an equal but one of a third world country ...telling him he would send Canada's military down to assist....instead of asking if he could help...did not help matters either...My Webpage <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Uh, he is the leader of a third world country - a tiny, impoverished, powerless little tinpot dictator. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Army Guy Posted June 7, 2005 Report Posted June 7, 2005 Argus : And what gives Mr Martin the right to dictate anything to anyone....What does he have to back up anything he might say or do, in regards to foriegn policy is my piont... I would hope that the leader of Canada would treat all the leaders of all nations with respect. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Melanie_ Posted June 7, 2005 Report Posted June 7, 2005 How long do we have to look and study the issues I meant that KalosSkilo was not looking at all of the issues, not that we as a country should defer action because we hadn't "studied" it enough. We've waited too long to help Darfur as it is. What form that help should take is my question now - we need an active peacekeeping force that can actually effect change, not end up frustrated and helpless like our contingent in Rwanda was. General Crabbe's estimate of 1,000 soldiers seems like a drop in the bucket, frankly, but I doubt we have much more than that to offer. And, lets be clear about our mission. It isn't about regime change or Western powers deciding how a country ought to be run. It's about stopping violence long enough for the politicians to get their acts together and build a peaceful nation. Some may scoff at that, but if we can't hold out that ideal as the ultimate goal, we have already written Sudan off as unsalvagable. Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
Army Guy Posted June 8, 2005 Report Posted June 8, 2005 Melanie: I meant that KalosSkilo was not looking at all of the issues, not that we as a country should defer action because we hadn't "studied" it enough. We've waited too long to help Darfur as it is. What form that help should take is my question now - we need an active peacekeeping force that can actually effect change, not end up frustrated and helpless like our contingent in Rwanda was. General Crabbe's estimate of 1,000 soldiers seems like a drop in the bucket, frankly, but I doubt we have much more than that to offer. Sorry, I'm frustrated at the way our goverment has handled this situation, and thought you were advocating that we should study it some more. 1000 troops is a drop in the bucket but hopefully in inspires other western countries to get involved. that being said 1000 Canadain troops on the ground could save countless lives and bring order to some of the country... And, lets be clear about our mission. It isn't about regime change or Western powers deciding how a country ought to be run. It's about stopping violence long enough for the politicians to get their acts together and build a peaceful nation. Some may scoff at that, but if we can't hold out that ideal as the ultimate goal, we have already written Sudan off as unsalvagable. Every mission starts out with simple,and clear mandates unfortunatly if it is not the situation on the ground that changes, it is our political masters that change it. sometimes for the good, sometimes more than not for the worse. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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