Should Belinda reveal the Hidden Agenda to Canada?

[Canuck E Stan]

Now that Belinda is a Cabinet Minister of the Liberals shouldn't it be her duty to tell us Canadians what the "Hidden Agenda" of the Conservatives is. I keep hearing Liberals talking aabout it but no one ever tells what it is. Belinda has the inside dope ,being right in the thick of it. So, should she tell us all orkeep it a Libral secret?

[PatM]

Now that Belinda is a Cabinet Minister of the Liberals shouldn't it be her duty to tell us Canadians what the "Hidden Agenda" of the Conservatives is. I keep hearing Liberals talking aabout it but no one ever tells what it is. Belinda has the inside dope ,being right in the thick of it. So, should she tell us all orkeep it a Libral secret?

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The problem there is that the hidden agenda of the conservatives is the same as the hidden agenda of the liberals. She can't squeal on one without squealing on the other.

Liberals and Reform are just the good cop/bad cop faces of the same people. Liberals just do it slower and sneakier.

[Canuck E Stan]

Damn, and to think we almost got to find out. Maybe BS can give us an inspirational guide book on Canadian politics. She can call it "How to Get Ahead in Canadian Politics Without Really Trying".

[PatM]

Damn, and to think we almost got to find out. Maybe BS can give us an inspirational  guide book on  Canadian politics. She can call it "How to Get Ahead in Canadian Politics Without Really Trying".

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Oh thats easy - don't need a book!

Be Rich And Good Looking.

I fail miserably on both counts

[Shakeyhands]

I wonder if she will introduce a private members bill now that would limit a womans right to choose... hmmmm.....

[The Terrible Sweal]

Now that Belinda is a Cabinet Minister of the Liberals shouldn't it be her duty to tell us Canadians what the "Hidden Agenda" of the Conservatives is. I keep hearing Liberals talking aabout it but no one ever tells what it is.

Please. Everyone knows what the Hidden Agenda is ... undermine inclusive programs, privatise social infrastructure, dismantle federal power, integrate more with the US, cater to religious feeling, etc.

Personally, I think the term Hidden Agenda is the wrong description. It would be more correct to say, 'Unacknowledged Incentives'.

[cybercoma]

Now that Belinda is a Cabinet Minister of the Liberals shouldn't it be her duty to tell us Canadians what the "Hidden Agenda" of the Conservatives is. I keep hearing Liberals talking aabout it but no one ever tells what it is.

Please. Everyone knows what the Hidden Agenda is ... undermine inclusive programs, privatise social infrastructure, dismantle federal power, integrate more with the US, cater to religious feeling, etc.

Personally, I think the term Hidden Agenda is the wrong description. It would be more correct to say, 'Unacknowledged Incentives'.

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Sounds like putting money in people's pockets where its most wisely spent. Sounds like promoting personal freedom and responsibility which rewards the most productive members of society who give back to Canada through their hard work and initiative.

It's beyond me where you get this catering to religious feeling, how this is any different than catering to socialist dogma is beyond me. I guess helping the religions preserve holy sacraments is a bad thing, while forcing hard working Canadians to give their money to things they don't believe in is a good thing.

[The Terrible Sweal]

Sounds like putting money in people's pockets where its most wisely spent. 

That's just dogma.

Money is wisely spent if it provides efficiently for a need. In the majority of matters, individual choice drives this most efficiently, but in certain instances (e.g. for economic reasons: natural monopolies or public goods; or for political reasons: justice issues) it may be wise to deploy an authority of some kind to acheive an outcome.

It's beyond me where you get this catering to religious feeling, ...

Oh, come on. The position on SSM for one thing.

I guess helping the religions preserve holy sacraments is a bad thing,

It is not the business of our government in any way at all.

BTW, Look at you! Supporting religious involvement at the same time you claim conservatives do not support religious involvement. Can you say hidden agenda?

[I miss Reagan]

Sweal, for one who claims to be a classical liberal you sure don't seem to believe in economic liberty...

[The Terrible Sweal]

Hey IMR...

Sure I support 'economic liberty', (I just wrote: "In the majority of matters, individual choice drives this most efficiently") . But I don't support it to the exclusion of situationally better methods of attaining objectives which individuals together may elect to implement.

I meant to get back to you about some other points. Watch this space...

-Law and Order policies of the CPC tend to be overly statist and class biased;

How?

Adding to police powers, increasing incarcertion, and having more things defined as crimes are all statist responses. Opposing rehabilitation, and reducing legal aid are class biased.

There are a lot of religious types in the party, but it is not the conservative agenda to go anywhere near abortion.

No, but it is the party of choice for private members who entertain such ideas.

-economic policies which favor (unmeritorious) entrenched interests at the expense of individual opportunity (to exercise merit);

I disagree, but what examples are you refering to?

Tories tend to seek to reduce the social benefits provided by government, are less likely to support public schools and other facilities, seek to leave more money in the hands of those who already have plenty, oppose taxation, and generally to stand against measures to alleviate economic disparity.

and

-a tendency to draw upon non-Reasonable criteria or analyses.

with respect to what?

Voodoo Economics, for example. Religion for another.

[takeanumber]

BTW, Look at you! laugh.gif Supporting religious involvement at the same time you claim conservatives do not support religious involvement. Can you say hidden agenda?

PWNED!!!!!!11111111

Hot Sweal. Hot.

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Belinda already told us about the hidden agenda by telling us what's not on it:

There's no plan for youth, cities, or women.

Three important priorities for this country: excluded.

What's worse: you push those priorities, and you get mocked, demeaned, and shouted at. Now that's the Harper way!

[I miss Reagan]

Thanks Sweal perhaps we need a new thread for this?...

[The Terrible Sweal]

Sure. I'll be there.

[cybercoma]

It is not the business of our government in any way at all. 

BTW, Look at you!    Supporting religious involvement at the same time you claim conservatives do not support religious involvement.  Can you say hidden agenda?

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Fine then, why does the government need to pass a bill to change anything if there should be no government involvement?

Marriage is a religious issue and as such should have no bearing on government policy; meanwhile, the liberals are trying to pass laws to alter the definition of something that is religion based. Is going entirely against religion any better than strongly supporting it?

[Technocrat]

Marriage is a religious issue and as such should have no bearing on government policy; meanwhile, the liberals are trying to pass laws to alter the definition of something that is religion based. Is going entirely against religion any better than strongly supporting it?

What a load of horsecrap!!! Marriage in a LEGAL sense IS for the state to decide NOT religion. It is up to the religious institutions to decide wether or not they are going to perform same sex marriges. No one is forced to do anything, no one is discriminated against.

When did the church decide it gets to make laws governing canadians? I must have missed that one.