BC Liberals fundraising scandal

[BigGunner]

the Campbell Liberals have been caught trying to shake down cities and towns for political donations to the BC liberal party in exchange for funding and capital projects. Today its revealed that they also have extended this kind of extortion to publically owned, taxpayer supported institutions such as schools, airports and the like.

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dollars-for-access affair

[willy]

This is a big nothing.

The party hosted economic forums around the province that invited business, and politicals alike to come and network with some key note speeches. The cost of these lunches in some cases and breakfasts in others was $25.00 per person. Not exactly extortion and not exactly a major party money maker. The total money made by the liberal party based on this is around $2000.00 from municipal officials. This money has now been returned. For a group that had donations of over $8million last year this is just stupid. If the chamber had hosted these events no problem. The only difference is the events would have cost more. This is a story of optics and not substance.

Now if you look at the NDP here the unions have been running ads during the writ period. Those same unions were supplying campaigns with signs outside the BC election contributions. I have not heard the total but I would peg it as much higher than $2000.00. This also does not include the amount of money that the labour has paid organizers to attack the government for the last 8 months (all outside the party books and disclosures).

This does disservice to the serious nature of the Gomery allegations when you try and paint this story in comparison.

[BigGunner]

This is a big nothing.

The party hosted economic forums around the province that invited business, and politicals alike to come and network with some key note speeches. The cost of these lunches in some cases and breakfasts in others was $25.00 per person. Not exactly extortion and not exactly a major party money maker. The total money made by the liberal party based on this is around $2000.00 from municipal officials. This money has now been returned. For a group that had donations of over $8million last year this is just stupid. If the chamber had hosted these events no problem. The only difference is the events would have cost more. This is a story of optics and not substance.

Now if you look at the NDP here the unions have been running ads during the writ period. Those same unions were supplying campaigns with signs outside the BC election contributions. I have not heard the total but I would peg it as much higher than $2000.00. This also does not include the amount of money that the labour has paid organizers to attack the government for the last 8 months (all outside the party books and disclosures).

This does disservice to the serious nature of the Gomery allegations when you try and paint this story in comparison.

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Did you just try and dismiss unethical and possibly illegal fundrasing tactics of the Campbell Liberals?!

- hounding cities and municipalities for political donations

- taking donations from taxpayer owned public institutions like colleges and airports

- the illegal acceptance of donations from registered charities?

**** The Campbell Liberals made it illegal for charities to make donations to political donations...then they broke their own laws.

As for 3rd party advertisers such as unions (pro-NDP/anti-Liberal), they have rules to follow too. Just as the pro-Liberal business groups that are also registered 3rd party advertisers...nothing new or illegal here.

Think for a second...if this was the NDP government facing this scandal, you and your liberal apologist friends would be calling for the public excecutions of NDP officials. Turn about is fair play now..

[PatM]

Did you just try and dismiss unethical and possibly illegal fundrasing tactics of the Campbell Liberals?!

- hounding cities and municipalities for political donations

- taking donations from taxpayer owned public institutions like colleges and airports

- the illegal acceptance of donations from registered charities?

**** The Campbell Liberals made it illegal for charities to make donations to political donations...then they broke their own laws.

As for 3rd party advertisers such as unions (pro-NDP/anti-Liberal), they have rules to follow too. Just as the pro-Liberal business groups that are also registered 3rd party advertisers...nothing new or illegal here.

Think for a second...if this was the NDP government facing this scandal, you and your liberal apologist friends would be calling for the public excecutions of NDP officials. Turn about is fair play now..

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Notice how be uses selective "Optics" to comepletely miss all the big business ads that ran here for MONTHS before the election? "Look how good BC is doing now!"

Of course they were bull, just as the liberal and Asper/fraser institute media claims of "Economy better than ever" claims are bull. Check Stats Canada econometric data - the liberals have been a disaster for the BC economy. Its better now than it ever has been UNDER THE LIBERALS - but up one level from pure crap is still crap.

Of course the liberals conveniently forget that homelessness in BC has quadrupled under their watch and is expected to double by next year. Its a great way to get unemployment stats down - if you're homeless you aren't in the unemployment stat.

[ceemes]

Did you just try and dismiss unethical and possibly illegal fundrasing tactics of the Campbell Liberals?!

- hounding cities and municipalities for political donations

- taking donations from taxpayer owned public institutions like colleges and airports

- the illegal acceptance of donations from registered charities?

**** The Campbell Liberals made it illegal for charities to make donations to political donations...then they broke their own laws.

As for 3rd party advertisers such as unions (pro-NDP/anti-Liberal), they have rules to follow too. Just as the pro-Liberal business groups that are also registered 3rd party advertisers...nothing new or illegal here.

Think for a second...if this was the NDP government facing this scandal, you and your liberal apologist friends would be calling for the public excecutions of NDP officials. Turn about is fair play now..

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Notice how be uses selective "Optics" to comepletely miss all the big business ads that ran here for MONTHS before the election? "Look how good BC is doing now!"

Of course they were bull, just as the liberal and Asper/fraser institute media claims of "Economy better than ever" claims are bull. Check Stats Canada econometric data - the liberals have been a disaster for the BC economy. Its better now than it ever has been UNDER THE LIBERALS - but up one level from pure crap is still crap.

Of course the liberals conveniently forget that homelessness in BC has quadrupled under their watch and is expected to double by next year. Its a great way to get unemployment stats down - if you're homeless you aren't in the unemployment stat.

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Well, the election is over and they won...so you can expect more of the same for the next four years........if you are big business or friends of Campbell, its happy times...if your are middle to lower income....the only thing your can do is bend over, spread your cheeks and pray they use some lube.