willy Posted March 15, 2005 Report Posted March 15, 2005 Funding Boost Announced For BC School DistrictsMar, 15 2005 - 12:00 PM The provincial government says all 60 school districts around BC will get a funding boost next year. Victoria has announced the annual operating grants for the 2005-06 school year. The liberals plan to increase overall education spending by 150 million dollars in the coming year for a total budget of four billion dollars. The ministry of education says the extra funding comes despite an expected drop in enrollment of about 67-hundred students next year. The BC Liberals continue to increase funding to education and health care, but I don't think the unions will yield their attacks. The attacks have nothing to do with funding or outcomes. They just want power. As the large increases in funding continues their aim becomes even more obvious. Quote
caesar Posted March 16, 2005 Report Posted March 16, 2005 I would bet; that this "increase" in funding hardly breaks even with the cuts they made earlier. Anyhow it is just an attempt to suck people back in. I don't think there are too many people dumb enough to fall for it. Quote
Slavik44 Posted March 16, 2005 Report Posted March 16, 2005 I would bet; that this "increase" in funding hardly breaks even with the cuts they made earlier. Anyhow it is just an attempt to suck people back in. I don't think there are too many people dumb enough to fall for it. Not at all true ceaser, and if you had researched your information before ahnd you would not be making such claims...in the last year of the NDP government education fuding was at 5,992 (which was the highest it got) in 2003 education funding was at 6,372...in fact through out the time the liberals have been in power funding per student has never dropped and always increased. I would also be carefull about throwing around the word dumb, especially when you are making false claims, about the non-existent funding cuts to education, claims like that would be dumb, notice I didn't call you dumb. Perhaps you could pick up on that and recognize that people who do not belive the same things as you are not Dumb. Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
caesar Posted March 16, 2005 Report Posted March 16, 2005 The contextSince the 2001–02 school year, the government has: frozen education funding for three years. offloaded additional costs to school boards, including the teacher salary increase legislated by government and increased costs for benefits. removed the cap or limit on administrative costs. stripped the provisions from teacher collective agreements that guaranteed class size limits, specialist teacher ratios, and support for students with special needs. Quote
Slavik44 Posted March 16, 2005 Report Posted March 16, 2005 I would bet; that this "increase" in funding hardly breaks even with the cuts they made earlier in the last year of the NDP government education fuding was at 5,992 (which was the highest it got) in 2003 education funding was at 6,372... The contextSince the 2001–02 school year, the government has: frozen education funding for three years. offloaded additional costs to school boards, including the teacher salary increase legislated by government and increased costs for benefits. removed the cap or limit on administrative costs. stripped the provisions from teacher collective agreements that guaranteed class size limits, specialist teacher ratios, and support for students with special needs. in the last year of the NDP government education fuding was at 5,992 (which was the highest it got) in 2003 education funding was at 6,372... sorry you lost the bet Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
caesar Posted March 16, 2005 Report Posted March 16, 2005 That doesn't sound like it is keeping up with inflation or our growing population. Look at all the schools closed. Quote
willy Posted March 16, 2005 Author Report Posted March 16, 2005 That doesn't sound like it is keeping up with inflation or our growing population. Look at all the schools closed. Enrollment has dropped every year the Libs have been in. Fewer students, means fewer schools. At the same time dollars have increased. Caesar, you can argue about many other things they have cut, i.e. social services budget. Why do you insist on attacking the areas they prioritized for spending? Is this where they got the term blind anger. Quote
Slavik44 Posted March 16, 2005 Report Posted March 16, 2005 That doesn't sound like it is keeping up with inflation or our growing population. Look at all the schools closed. well here it is with inflation taken into consideration last year of the NDP was at 6,339 and as you already know in 2003 the liberals were at 6,372...so yes even with inflation taken into consideration the liberals are still higher in 2003. But if we also want to take inflation into consideration it is important to notice that education spending per student dropped a fair amount during the time of the NDP. As for the schools closed, perhaps it was to free up more money, I could be wrong as I couldn't find any information on the closed schools...but perhpas the were losing students rapidly, the school was in poor condition, and this moove would free up spending on students rather then wasting it on costly repairs, in an under attended school, in comparison to others. Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
fellowtraveller Posted March 16, 2005 Report Posted March 16, 2005 BC is following the path Alberta took 11 years ago. Result: Alberta easily leads Canada in objectively measured scholastic achievement, and is very near the top jurisdiction worldwide. Lesson learned: Success (and there is no question Albertas experience is a positive result for the students)is as much due to how you spend the money as it is to how much money you spend. I blame Klein for this outcome. Only idiots confuse ideology with measurable progress, and that is the real battle in BC. Quote The government should do something.
caesar Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Caesar, you can argue about many other things they have cut, i.e. social services budget. Why do you insist on attacking the areas they prioritized for spending?Because it is all smoke and mirrors. Class sizes are larger and there is less help for children with learning disabilities or physical disabilities. Quote
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