So the native inquiry farce begins

[herples]

1 hour ago, Argus said:

There is no reason for this inquiry. We already know what causes native women to be killed or disappeared, and it's mostly violent native men and poverty which leads to alcoholism crime, prostitution, etc. This is just ridiculously expensive group therapy.

You are making unsubstantiated claims. 

[Argus]

1 hour ago, herples said:

You are making unsubstantiated claims. 

Actually I'm making fairly obvious statements of fact. Just what new information do you imagine is going to be produced by this so-called inquiry that hasn't already been discovered by previous inquiries and police statistics? Native women are killed violently in greater numbers than white women? So what? Native men are killed violently in greater numbers than white men too. The reserves are violent. Natives commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime. The prisons are full of natives. This is due to the cultural breakdown on native reserves, to poverty, to hopelessness, to not having any purpose in life on uneconomical reserves without jobs.

[scribblet]

On 8/3/2016 at 4:54 PM, -1=e^ipi said:

Yes, but according to the CBC, this comment is racist.

Comments like these are why CBC decided to get rid of all comments on native issues. Can't have people arguing that people should be equal and that the reserve system contributes to poverty, it gets in the way of the narrative they wish to peddle.

Exactly.  If we say 'ALL'  people are equal so should be treated as such with no race based preferential treatment, it is considered racist.   That is how far we have stepped away from reality and the ability to help Natives get out from under an apartheid like system which stifles their growth and economic viability.

[scribblet]

1 hour ago, Argus said:

Actually I'm making fairly obvious statements of fact. Just what new information do you imagine is going to be produced by this so-called inquiry that hasn't already been discovered by previous inquiries and police statistics? Native women are killed violently in greater numbers than white women? So what? Native men are killed violently in greater numbers than white men too. The reserves are violent. Natives commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime. The prisons are full of natives. This is due to the cultural breakdown on native reserves, to poverty, to hopelessness, to not having any purpose in life on uneconomical reserves without jobs.

This is true, but we can't say that, instead we must keep throwing buckets of money at reserves and unaccountable chiefs so until this is stopped women and men will continue to die.

[herples]

21 hours ago, Argus said:

Actually I'm making fairly obvious statements of fact. Just what new information do you imagine is going to be produced by this so-called inquiry that hasn't already been discovered by previous inquiries and police statistics? Native women are killed violently in greater numbers than white women? So what? Native men are killed violently in greater numbers than white men too. The reserves are violent. Natives commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime. The prisons are full of natives. This is due to the cultural breakdown on native reserves, to poverty, to hopelessness, to not having any purpose in life on uneconomical reserves without jobs.

You are making unsubstantiated claims about cold cases. 

[herples]

21 hours ago, scribblet said:

This is true, but we can't say that, instead we must keep throwing buckets of money at reserves and unaccountable chiefs so until this is stopped women and men will continue to die.

We signed treaties with people saying we will provide them a level of service the same as any other Canadian and the government has failed to do that. It is written in section 35 of the constitution act that the treaties and native are protected. It is also section 25 of the charter.

Edited January 1, 2018 by herples

[Argus]

1 hour ago, herples said:

You are making unsubstantiated claims about cold cases. 

The solution rate for the murders of native women is virtually identical with that of white women. The belief by the native rights industry that the police were simply ignoring them because of racism was proved unfounded quite some time ago. It's true the police were not always terribly sensitive, particularly in the case of prostitutes and street people, but no less so than with white or brown or black prostitutes or street people.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, herples said:

We signed treaties with people saying we will provide them a level of service the same as any other Canadian and the government has failed to do that. It is written in section 35 of the constitution act that the treaties and native are protected. It is also section 25 of the charter.

We never signed any such treaty. In fact, the treaties never said anything about providing them with such things as heat or electricity or running water, nor suggested they would be permitted to vote.