maplesyrup Posted November 17, 2004 Report Posted November 17, 2004 Science ; Ozone blamed in thousands of deaths annually: study Finally some concrete data that the scientific community has been warning us about for a long time. We ignore these scientists at our peril. Thanks oil industy and other major polluters. Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
stamps Posted November 18, 2004 Report Posted November 18, 2004 .0001151%.... even though it only MAY be a cause it is still very disgusting.... Quote
maplesyrup Posted November 18, 2004 Author Report Posted November 18, 2004 Do you remember when all those seniors died in France a couple of summers ago? Anyway with all these people dying thanks to our pollution, should we call it assisted-suicide? Greg....don't hesitate to aid your two cents, FWIW. Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
maplesyrup Posted November 18, 2004 Author Report Posted November 18, 2004 Get tough on car emissions, California politician tells Ottawa The Canadian government asked car manufacturers four years ago to cut emissions by 25 per cent by 2010. Little progress has been made and the manufacturers say the industry will be hurt by the changes. Dion has demanded car makers come up with a plan within the next few months. "We don't want to wait forever," said Dion. "Canadians will not understand why the auto industry was able to commit to an agreement in Europe, Japan and Australia, and not in Canada." Pavley suggested the minister may have to impose regulations if car makers keep dodging the issue. She points out they've opposed air bags and seatbelts in the past. "We know they can do it and that's what's frustrating. We know the technology is out there." John Efford, the minister of natural resources, also spoke with Pavley. "We've set goals and we will meet them in 2010," he promised. What is Canada waiting for? A monumental crash! Let's put a government in there that knows what they are doing, and that gives a shit about the lives of ordinary Canadians, as well as people in the rest of the world. Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
Pateris Posted November 19, 2004 Report Posted November 19, 2004 maplesyrup, Oil is not the primary polluter... the users of petroleum products are... if you consider CO2 a pollutant (I don't), then the oil industry is a very small percentage of the total CO2 emissions... they shouldn't take the flak for people using their product. Because the truth is people don't have an alternative. Quote
caesar Posted November 19, 2004 Report Posted November 19, 2004 Number one polluter: Air polluter. The largest air polluter in Canada is the Ontario Government's Nanticoke coal-fired electricity generating station. The Nanticoke power plant on the shores of Lake Erie released 6,934,136 kg of contaminants to the air, mostly lung-irritating, acid rain-causing gases. Nanticoke released nearly 6.3 million kg of hydrochloric acid; 389,088 kg of hydrogen fluoride, an acid rain-causing, irritating gas declared hazardous by the US EPA; 355,421 kg of sulphuric acid, and 226 kg of the nerve toxin mercury. Scary stuff eh Quote
caesar Posted November 19, 2004 Report Posted November 19, 2004 For strictly ozone depleting substances Ozone-depleting polluter. OC Celfortec's plastic foam products facility in Grande-Ile, Quebec, was the largest emitter of substances that destroy the planet's protective ozone layer. The plant emitted 415,120 kg of ozone-depleting substances, including 304,870 kg of HCFC-142b and 110,250 kg of HCFC-22. Calgary made the list for water polluter. Quote
maplesyrup Posted November 19, 2004 Author Report Posted November 19, 2004 Age of green cars arrives as Canadians cut emissions The pledge from Ottawa will add to the pressure on the North American automotive industry to develop vehicles that meet higher emission standards of gases such as methane and carbon dioxide. About a third of the greenhouse gas emissions thought to contribute to global warming in the US come from motor vehicles. Looks like big shakeups are coming for many industries, not just for automobiles. Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
caesar Posted November 19, 2004 Report Posted November 19, 2004 This is the ozone problem not global warming. The old air conditioners in cars were a problem and spray cans. Quote
maplesyrup Posted November 19, 2004 Author Report Posted November 19, 2004 Global warming is suspected to lead to a weakening of the ozone layer. They are related. Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
Pateris Posted November 19, 2004 Report Posted November 19, 2004 The story maplesyrup posted had NOTHING to do with the ozone layer and nothing to do with global warming or CO2. It had to do with ground level ozone (a smog component) produced by atmospheric reactions with the products of internal combustion engines. Ozone is highly reactive and therefore causes health problems. But DON'T CONFUSE the issues... you simply show how uninformed you are. Quote
maplesyrup Posted November 19, 2004 Author Report Posted November 19, 2004 maplesyrup,Oil is not the primary polluter... the users of petroleum products are... if you consider CO2 a pollutant (I don't), then the oil industry is a very small percentage of the total CO2 emissions... they shouldn't take the flak for people using their product. Because the truth is people don't have an alternative. Pateris.....there are always alternatives. If we spend the money on research into solar power that we spend on non-renewable resources for example. Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
maplesyrup Posted November 19, 2004 Author Report Posted November 19, 2004 The story maplesyrup posted had NOTHING to do with the ozone layer and nothing to do with global warming or CO2.It had to do with ground level ozone (a smog component) produced by atmospheric reactions with the products of internal combustion engines. Ozone is highly reactive and therefore causes health problems. But DON'T CONFUSE the issues... you simply show how uninformed you are. Thanks for the clarification. Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
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