Corporate Influence On Alberta Education

[socialist]

It just blows me away as to what the provincial government of Alberta is doing with curriculum redesign. They are calling on corporations, especially big oil to be a part of the redesign. There is no room for money grubbing corporations to have any influence on what is being taught in schools. They don't care about social justice. There is a petition out and already 26,000 people have signed it opposing this intrusion in public education by big oil. Big thanks to an active NDP party in Alberta who is looking out for our children. This has got my blood boiling and the out of touch PC government in Alberta better wake up and realize Alberta is quickly becoming a progressive society.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/alberta-politics/Petition+protests+corporatization+education+with/9719740/story.html

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/04/09/petition-to-alberta-legislature-says-keep-corporations-away-from-education

[Pct2017]

It just blows me away as to what the provincial government of Alberta is doing with curriculum redesign. They are calling on corporations, especially big oil to be a part of the redesign. There is no room for money grubbing corporations to have any influence on what is being taught in schools. They don't care about social justice. There is a petition out and already 26,000 people have signed it opposing this intrusion in public education by big oil. Big thanks to an active NDP party in Alberta who is looking out for our children. This has got my blood boiling and the out of touch PC government in Alberta better wake up and realize Alberta is quickly becoming a progressive society.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/alberta-politics/Petition+protests+corporatization+education+with/9719740/story.html

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/04/09/petition-to-alberta-legislature-says-keep-corporations-away-from-education

Ah Socialist, you crack me up. When do you actually do prep time for this alleged teaching job of yours? But, hey when you only put in 5.5 hours per day, I guess you have plenty of time to surf the web looking for conspiracies and whacked out left wing websites that support your view on the world.

Where to start? Well, let us deal with the obvious. What is wrong with the corporate world (yes, the same entities who will eventually hire the kids in school) having a say in the curriculum? Mayhaps they are looking the what is being produced now and are saying we cannot hire these kids. We don't need experts on fingerpainting and videos/movies. But what about the social engineering that they will demand, screams young Socialist. That is the sole job of teachers. Only teachers can take their own personal opinions and "teach" them to kids. Yes, children, oil is bad. Clearcutting is heinous. Fish farms are evil. The government is corrupt. THAT IS THE JOB OF TEACHERS, NOT GREEDY CORPORATIONS you shout.

But, hang on, what about the petition. 26,000 people in Alberta signed it right? Well, not quite. Turns out about 1/4 of the signatures were from Alberta. The rest were from the usual cast of characters across Canada. You know the ones. They would gleefully sign an online petition if it stated "Endangered species like the common mosquito or the Norwegian rat must be afforded special protection".

Lastly, yes, Alberta is right on the cusp of voting in an NDP provincial government. That was clearly underlined exactly one year ago when they elected 4 NDP MLA's out of 87 seats. Good math skills there Socialist.

Edited April 10, 2014 by Pct2017

[socialist]

Ah Socialist, you crack me up. When do you actually do prep time for this alleged teaching job of yours? But, hey when you only put in 5.5 hours per day, I guess you have plenty of time to surf the web looking for conspiracies and whacked out left wing websites that support your view on the world.

Where to start? Well, let us deal with the obvious. What is wrong with the corporate world (yes, the same entities who will eventually hire the kids in school) having a say in the curriculum? Mayhaps they are looking the what is being produced now and are saying we cannot hire these kids. We don't need experts on fingerpainting and videos/movies. But what about the social engineering that they will demand, screams young Socialist. That is the sole job of teachers. Only teachers can take their own personal opinions and "teach" them to kids. Yes, children, oil is bad. Clearcutting is heinous. Fish farms are evil. The government is corrupt. THAT IS THE JOB OF TEACHERS, NOT GREEDY CORPORATIONS you shout.

But, hang on, what about the petition. 26,000 people in Alberta signed it right? Well, not quite. Turns out about 1/4 of the signatures were from Alberta. The rest were from the usual cast of characters across Canada. You know the ones. They would gleefully sign an online petition if it stated "Endangered species like the common mosquito or the Norwegian rat must be afforded special protection".

Lastly, yes, Alberta is right on the cusp of voting in an NDP provincial government. That was clearly underlined exactly one year ago when they elected 4 NDP MLA's out of 87 seats. Good math skills there Socialist.

I don't prep 24/7 genius. All you do is parrot the neo-lib talking points, so I'm not surprised that you would allow corporations to see kids as nothing more than future buyers. It's clear that those who make decisions in public education care very little about justice and democracy. I put you in that camp. You should be ashamed.

[WestCoastRunner]

I too have a problem with the Oil industry weighing in on the education system in Alberta. I can understand when they reach out to community colleges to ensure that students are trained to fill jobs in their industries but to influence the education system for kindergarten to grade 8 students is very scary. The oil industry should not ever run the government or the education system.

[WestCoastRunner]

Ah Socialist, you crack me up. When do you actually do prep time for this alleged teaching job of yours? But, hey when you only put in 5.5 hours per day, I guess you have plenty of time to surf the web looking for conspiracies and whacked out left wing websites that support your view on the world.

Where to start? Well, let us deal with the obvious. What is wrong with the corporate world (yes, the same entities who will eventually hire the kids in school) having a say in the curriculum? Mayhaps they are looking the what is being produced now and are saying we cannot hire these kids. We don't need experts on fingerpainting and videos/movies. But what about the social engineering that they will demand, screams young Socialist. That is the sole job of teachers. Only teachers can take their own personal opinions and "teach" them to kids. Yes, children, oil is bad. Clearcutting is heinous. Fish farms are evil. The government is corrupt. THAT IS THE JOB OF TEACHERS, NOT GREEDY CORPORATIONS you shout.

Instead of attacking the poster and what he does in his spare time, why not stick to the issue. First of all, fingerpainting is taught at the elementary school level. Why on earth do the oil companies feel they need to influence what children at these ages study as part of their curriculum. Typically film making is taught at the college level, not at the elementary level. Social engineering is taught at the college and university level, not at the elementary level. So why are the oil companies trying to influence the elementary school education?

[socialist]

Instead of attacking the poster and what he does in his spare time, why not stick to the issue. First of all, fingerpainting is taught at the elementary school level. Why on earth do the oil companies feel they need to influence what children at these ages study as part of their curriculum. Typically film making is taught at the college level, not at the elementary level. Social engineering is taught at the college and university level, not at the elementary level. So why are the oil companies trying to influence the elementary school education?

Don't ask PCT hard questions. He'll just o on a baseless, sarcastic tirade displaying his lack of knowledge on the subject. You make great points though.,

[WestCoastRunner]

Don't ask PCT hard questions. He'll just o on a baseless, sarcastic tirade displaying his lack of knowledge on the subject. You make great points though.,

And to point out, I am not speaking from any political platform. I am speaking as a parent of children and a grandchild. I do not want any oil company to weigh in on their education at the elementary and even the high school level. I don't care what province in Canada either.

[Pct2017]

Instead of attacking the poster and what he does in his spare time, why not stick to the issue. First of all, fingerpainting is taught at the elementary school level. Why on earth do the oil companies feel they need to influence what children at these ages study as part of their curriculum. Typically film making is taught at the college level, not at the elementary level. Social engineering is taught at the college and university level, not at the elementary level. So why are the oil companies trying to influence the elementary school education?

C'mon, young Socialist has no spare time. He has posted many a cartoon stating just that.

No, I am not saying the public school system is churning out students who are well versed in producing videos and movies. What the school system is producing is students who are experts on watching movies and videos ad nauseum when our highly motivated teachers have one of their "I don't feel like doing much today" days.

And, again I apologize for putting stress on your ability to process information when I fairly clearly stated that the social engineering that is happening to our kids in school is done by our teachers. And just so that this is very clear, this is a bad thing. When a grade 2 teacher has her students write a letter to the premier stating that the government is bullying teachers because they will not give the teachers more money, that is social engineering (and obviously abuse of position) .

To quote the exasperated sales clerk I overheard today at a store in which a customer was quibbling about a discount that was not due to her, I will ask you the same question that the clerk asked of her customer: Are you a school teacher?

[WestCoastRunner]

C'mon, young Socialist has no spare time. He has posted many a cartoon stating just that.

No, I am not saying the public school system is churning out students who are well versed in producing videos and movies. What the school system is producing is students who are experts on watching movies and videos ad nauseum when our highly motivated teachers have one of their "I don't feel like doing much today" days.

And, again I apologize for putting stress on your ability to process information when I fairly clearly stated that the social engineering that is happening to our kids in school is done by our teachers. And just so that this is very clear, this is a bad thing. When a grade 2 teacher has her students write a letter to the premier stating that the government is bullying teachers because they will not give the teachers more money, that is social engineering (and obviously abuse of position) .

To quote the exasperated sales clerk I overheard today at a store in which a customer was quibbling about a discount that was not due to her, I will ask you the same question that the clerk asked of her customer: Are you a school teacher?

This doesn't explain why oil companies should be weighing in on the elementary and high school education system and how they could possibly improve on it. I am not a school teacher, but what does that have to do with it. I had kids in the education system. Do you have stats on students who watch movies and videos ad nauseum when the teachers don't feel like teaching?

[socialist]

PCT just makes stuff up without evidence.

[socialist]

A common sense editorial by an educator.

http://www.portagedailygraphic.com/2014/04/04/good-habit-and-bad-legislation

[WestCoastRunner]

I would like folks to weigh in on why the oil companies would benefit the education system in Alberta or anywhere else for that matter. I haven't heard any good arguments in their favour.

[socialist]

I would like folks to weigh in on why the oil companies would benefit the education system in Alberta or anywhere else for that matter. I haven't heard any good arguments in their favour.

Oil companies have no business influencing public education. All they care about are profits, and they don't care about the environment. Big oil and the neo-liberals are walking hand in hand attempting to destroy public education. We need to all stand up and put an end to it. Sign this important petition and be on the right side of history.

http://ow.ly/i/5cInq

[WestCoastRunner]

Socialist: I do have an issue with your stance against the neo-liberals. I am speaking as a parent against the oil companies influencing the educational system in Canada. If you were to lay off on the neo-liberals (whatever the hell that means!), you may find more sympathy and support. BTW, I am liberal but I also support your stance against the oil companies invading the educational system.

[socialist]

Socialist: I do have an issue with your stance against the neo-liberals. I am speaking as a parent against the oil companies influencing the educational system in Canada. If you were to lay off on the neo-liberals (whatever the hell that means!), you may find more sympathy and support. BTW, I am liberal but I also support your stance against the oil companies invading the educational system.

Like many, you don't understand what neo-liberalism is. Educate yourself and get back to me. read this to understand how neo-liberalism is underminin public education in BC.

http://rosslandtelegraph.com/news/comment-kootenay-columbia-teachers-union-bc-liberals-and-neo-liberalism-14298#.U0c87_ldUuc

[On Guard for Thee]

I don't suppose global warming will be aprt of the Exxon Mobil curriculum?

[socialist]

I don't suppose global warming will be aprt of the Exxon Mobil curriculum?

Why would it when they are doing their part to cause it?

[On Guard for Thee]

That was kinda my point.

[socialist]

That was kinda my point.

Stating the obvious adds nothing to the discussion. Educate yourself on the neo-liberal agenda to privatize public education.

[On Guard for Thee]

What exactly is your version of a neo liberal?

[WestCoastRunner]

What exactly is your version of a neo liberal?

Yes, I am wondering that as well. I am a liberal but I am against the oil companies weighing in on public education. What does that make me? What the heck is a neo liberal?

[socialist]

Yes, I am wondering that as well. I am a liberal but I am against the oil companies weighing in on public education. What does that make me? What the heck is a neo liberal?

I posted a link? Did you actually take the time to read it?

[socialist]

Yes, I am wondering that as well. I am a liberal but I am against the oil companies weighing in on public education. What does that make me? What the heck is a neo liberal?

This may also give you some understanding of the neo-liberal agenda. Read and try to understand reality and join us in resistance.

http://www.solidarity-us.org/site/node/1708

[On Guard for Thee]

Yes, I am wondering that as well. I am a liberal but I am against the oil companies weighing in on public education. What does that make me? What the heck is a neo liberal?

I think there are a number of variations as to what a neo liberal is. Some harking back to 1930's Germany. And I agree, I don't want any more bias in the classroom than is possible. Politics should be studied there, not stoked.

[WestCoastRunner]

I am going to abstain from joining a resistance party. I simply want the oil companies to stay out of the educational system.