Argus Posted October 28, 2012 Report Posted October 28, 2012 The thought popped into my head, upon hearing that Harry Reid, the senate majority leader, had been involved in a small traffic incident. According to the report, he wasn't driving. That was his security detail. The accident involved four cars in the senator's motorcade while he was on his way to a dedication ceremony at some museum. Needless to say, the only politician in Canada who would have a motorcade is the PM. No cabinet minister, as far as I'm aware, has a security detail. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
cybercoma Posted October 28, 2012 Report Posted October 28, 2012 (edited) Not even the Prime Minister should have a motorcade travelling around Ottawa. The PM is not like the POTUS. The Prime Minister's death would not accomplish anything in our system. The party would choose a new leader, who would assume the role of Prime Minister. Our head of state is the Queen or her viceroy. Senators especially should not have motorcades. It's sheer absurdity. Especially when he was travelling around Ottawa. Edited October 28, 2012 by cybercoma Quote
punked Posted October 28, 2012 Report Posted October 28, 2012 The thought popped into my head, upon hearing that Harry Reid, the senate majority leader, had been involved in a small traffic incident. According to the report, he wasn't driving. That was his security detail. The accident involved four cars in the senator's motorcade while he was on his way to a dedication ceremony at some museum. Needless to say, the only politician in Canada who would have a motorcade is the PM. No cabinet minister, as far as I'm aware, has a security detail. He is the Senate Majority leader not just a Senator. Quote
Smallc Posted October 28, 2012 Report Posted October 28, 2012 Not even the Prime Minister should have a motorcade travelling around Ottawa. While I understand where you're coming from, in practical terms, the death of the head of government of a country generally isn't a good thing, and Stephen Harper is definitely a target to some. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 28, 2012 Report Posted October 28, 2012 It's not that he shouldn't have any security, but a 6 car motorcade (that's what Harper has) is a bit overboard. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 28, 2012 Report Posted October 28, 2012 He is the Senate Majority leader not just a Senator. Exactly. The speaker of the House is also provided with round-the-clock protection. Quote
Topaz Posted October 28, 2012 Report Posted October 28, 2012 Does anyone know the cost of that security? Last time I heard its was up to 50 million for the PM. A relative of mine that is in security said that the security people make $800. daily guarding the PM. Quote
Argus Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Posted October 28, 2012 (edited) Exactly. The speaker of the House is also provided with round-the-clock protection. Why? The speaker of the House in Canada gets no protection, and certainly no motorcade. Though I'd say the party house leaders would be a more comparable role here. But House Leaders get nothing either. Edited October 28, 2012 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Guest Derek L Posted October 29, 2012 Report Posted October 29, 2012 The thought popped into my head, upon hearing that Harry Reid, the senate majority leader, had been involved in a small traffic incident. According to the report, he wasn't driving. That was his security detail. The accident involved four cars in the senator's motorcade while he was on his way to a dedication ceremony at some museum. Needless to say, the only politician in Canada who would have a motorcade is the PM. No cabinet minister, as far as I'm aware, has a security detail. But the state will fund the individual protection of such lowly professions as Provincial Judges and Crown Prosecutors……….Why not Politicians if there’s a merited threat on their lives? I’m certain a great many Americans don’t care for Senator Reid…. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2012 Report Posted October 29, 2012 I can't imagine why judges and prosecutors would need security.~ Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 29, 2012 Report Posted October 29, 2012 It's not that he shouldn't have any security, but a 6 car motorcade (that's what Harper has) is a bit overboard. So in your view, what number of cars should be in his motorcade? When Foreign dignitaries travel to Vancouver they’re afford the escort of a police motorcade from the airport to the city.........The Vancouver Police will use 6-8 motorbikes and a couple of marked, and I’d assume unmarked cars. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 29, 2012 Report Posted October 29, 2012 I can't imagine why judges and prosecutors would need security.~ The same reason the head of our Government might? Quote
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2012 Report Posted October 29, 2012 Not even remotely close to the same reason. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 29, 2012 Report Posted October 29, 2012 Not even remotely close to the same reason. Really? Care to expand on that? Quote
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2012 Report Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) Well, one group deals with convicting dangerous criminals in court, while the other deals with arguing about rules on paper in Parliament. I'm sorry, but the difference is obvious. Feel free to choose to ignore it though. Edited October 29, 2012 by cybercoma Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 29, 2012 Report Posted October 29, 2012 Well, one group deals with convicting dangerous criminals in court, while the other deals with arguing about rules on paper in Parliament. I'm sorry, but the difference is obvious. Feel free to choose to ignore it though. But wait, couldn't there also be threats on both groups persons? A dead Judge is just as dead as a dead Prime Minister no? Quote
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2012 Report Posted October 29, 2012 Is just as dead as a high school student. Maybe the government should pay for security details for high school students. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2012 Report Posted October 29, 2012 And here's the part where you say it has a bigger impact if the PM is killed and he's at a greater risk, and I say, "Oh! So it's about risk. Then don't you think the people that tell dangerous offenders to their face several times a day that they will be locked away are at a greater risk than the guy pushing paper in Parliament?" Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 29, 2012 Report Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) Is just as dead as a high school student. Maybe the government should pay for security details for high school students. So you’re now comparing the threats to the Prime Minister or a Judge residing over an OC case, to that of a high school student…………That’s rather weak………. Edited October 29, 2012 by Derek L Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 29, 2012 Report Posted October 29, 2012 And here's the part where you say it has a bigger impact if the PM is killed and he's at a greater risk, and I say, "Oh! So it's about risk. Then don't you think the people that tell dangerous offenders to their face several times a day that they will be locked away are at a greater risk than the guy pushing paper in Parliament?" You talking to yourself now? Quote
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2012 Report Posted October 29, 2012 Apparently I had to, since you missed the rhetorical point I was making. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 29, 2012 Report Posted October 29, 2012 Apparently I had to, since you missed the rhetorical point I was making. I suppose so.......I'll leave you to yourself. Enjoy! Quote
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