Canadian pedophile outing website goes live!

[g_bambino]

I doubt that many members of the public will care if a child molester is a pedophile or not. To the majority a child molester gets turned on by prepubescent children, end of story. You can argue semantics all you want it won't change public perception.

Your first sentence is spot on and negates your words that follow it: It is the actions of the individual that primarily matter; the motivations are secondary. The majority, therefore, is being lazy and wrong (perhaps dangerously so) to assume there is only one motivation and that it was behind every instance of child molestation, thereby putting the crime and the motivation on the same level, mixing the two into one, actually.

Public perception is amorphous. It is also frequently counterfactual. It thus isn't in any way sacrosanct.

[guyser]

People ignored that and decided to tell me that not all pedophiles are child molesters and vice versa.

Yea....so? Its true.

Although one is not considered a pedophile until and at whioch time he either seeks help and admits it is his or her leaning or is convicted.

A person is a person until the law decrees them guilty at which time they can be called a pedophile.

Are you defending convicted child sex offenders?

Considering no one here would, nor has , nor will......sorry, what point are you trying to make again?

[Guest American Woman]

Why do people on this site constantly engage in semantics? people here constantly ignore the original statement and instead want to muddy the waters playing games with words. It's frustrating.

My condolences on the loss of your Dad. I know what a difficult time this must be for you. God bless.

As for your frustration - the original statement, as it stands, refers to "pedophiles," not convicted and/or criminal pedophiles. It condemns and vilifies all, regardless of whether they have molested children or not. Again. It's the way their brain is wired, it's not a conscious choice to be attracted to children, and not all pedophiles have or will molest children.

It's not a matter of "semantics;" it's a matter of presenting your claims factually. IOW, if you want people to concentrate on what you are saying, then present it factually.

[Mr.Canada]

My condolences on the loss of your Dad. I know what a difficult time this must be for you. God bless.

As for your frustration - the original statement, as it stands, refers to "pedophiles," not convicted and/or criminal pedophiles. It condemns and vilifies all, regardless of whether they have molested children or not. Again. It's the way their brain is wired, it's not a conscious choice to be attracted to children, and not all pedophiles have or will molest children.

It's not a matter of "semantics;" it's a matter of presenting your claims factually. IOW, if you want people to concentrate on what you are saying, then present it factually.

Thank you for the condolences.

A pedophile is not socially acceptable criminal or not.

Are you arguing in favor of a pedophile? Yes or no answer please.

I don't understand why you're so keen on making this distinction.

Where did you find this information of non offending pedophiles?

If they are out there who are they?

How did you come to find this information?

Why are you continually saying the same thing over and over again?

Please provide some quotes please.

I still cannot believe that you appear to arguing in favor of the pedophile instead of the child who was victimized and scarred for life.

Edited September 18, 2012 by Mr.Canada

[Guest American Woman]

Thank you for the condolences.

You're welcome.

A pedophile is not socially acceptable criminal or not.

Of course they are "socially acceptable" if they don't act on their urges/desires. They aren't doing anything to society, so as a person, they are "acceptable." What would make them unacceptable?

Are you arguing in favor of a pedophile? Yes or no answer please.

Of course not, and as I keep pointing out, it's not a choice that they make, either. Their brains are wired that way. I'm sure, given a choice, they would not choose to be sexually attracted to children. Do you think otherwise?

I don't understand why you're so keen on making this distinction.

Because it's an important distinction; it's the difference between being a criminal and not being a criminal.

Where did you find this information of non offending pedophiles?

If they are out there who are they?

How did you come to find this information?

As I've said before, they are not going to announce their sexual preferences to the world at large. Why would they do that? There are some, however, who seek counseling, there are studies, there are ways of knowing. I don't understand why you would think that there are no pedophiles who could control their urges based on their knowledge that it's wrong and their desire not to hurt children.

Why are you continually saying the same thing over and over again?

Because you keep bringing up the same things over, making incorrect claims over and over, drawing incorrect conclusions about posters' views over and over, and asking the same questions over and over.

Please provide some quotes please.

Sorry, but I can't give you statistics. It's like I said, because of the stigma, pedophiles are likely to stay 'in the closet,' so to speak - so it's detrimental to society, this attitude that we have, when it's something that it not a choice.

I still cannot believe that you appear to arguing in favor of the pedophile instead of the child who was victimized and scarred for life.

Of course I'm not arguing in favor of the pedophile, and if you'd actually read what I am saying, you would understand that.

As I've pointed out, it appears as if they are born that way, so it's not a choice. The best way to deal with the problem, then, is for as many as possible to get help; to get counseling. However, because of the stigma, they are reluctant to get help. So that is not a good thing. So I am arguing for understanding pedophilia, for understanding that pedophiles don't have to become child molesters, that not all of them are; I'm arguing against painting all pedophiles as criminals/child molesters, as I think that's detrimental to children's well being, to them, and therefore to society.

[Mr.Canada]

AW, so going back to the original idea for this thread. Do you find it good or bad that people are collecting this information and putting it on a website?

[Guest American Woman]

AW, so going back to the original idea for this thread. Do you find it good or bad that people are collecting this information and putting it on a website?

As I said in my first post, I think it's good since they are convicted pedophiles.

Edited September 19, 2012 by American Woman