Speaker's Ruling on F-35 Deceit in the House

[cybercoma]

The speaker refuses to rule on the truthfulness of statements in the house, since the speaker is not responsible to rule on the content or quality of answers to question. These are only a matter of debate, according to him.

So in a nut shell, his ruling is that he will not rule on the matter.

He then goes on to state that the threshold is exceedingly high and that it must be proven that the members that lied to parliament had to do so deliberately. He states that there is not enough evidence to show the deceit was deliberate.

Sorry about your luck, Bob.

Edited May 7, 2012 by cybercoma

[nittanylionstorm07]

The speaker refuses to rule on the truthfulness of statements in the house, since the speaker is not responsible to rule on the content or quality of answers to question. These are only a matter of debate, according to him.

So in a nut shell, his ruling is that he will not rule on the matter.

He then goes on to state that the threshold is exceedingly high and that it must be proven that the members that lied to parliament had to do so deliberately. He states that there is not enough evidence to show the deceit was deliberate.

Sorry about your luck, Bob.

I'm still confused as to why the Tories felt that electing such a young person to such a wise person's post was such a great idea.

As an NDP supporter, I think Milliken did an absolutely honourable and outstanding job in the post.

[punked]

I'm still confused as to why the Tories felt that electing such a young person to such a wise person's post was such a great idea.

As an NDP supporter, I think Milliken did an absolutely honourable and outstanding job in the post.

But the Conservatives needed one of their own and convincing one of them to take a higher paying position was easy so that was all she wrote.

[Topaz]

This isn't the first time that this speaker has gone all out for the Tories and he will do harm to himself for not be open minded and fair. The only way to change this is the change the government. I've watched the House and I know the Tories are guilty of not telling the whole truth and at one time when the opposition tried to gt an open bid going, MCKay said we can't its a done deal and now they come out and say, no money been spent and no contracts have been sign.

[wyly]

This isn't the first time that this speaker has gone all out for the Tories and he will do harm to himself for not be open minded and fair. The only way to change this is the change the government. I've watched the House and I know the Tories are guilty of not telling the whole truth and at one time when the opposition tried to gt an open bid going, MCKay said we can't its a done deal and now they come out and say, no money been spent and no contracts have been sign.

and they were asked for an "all in price" repeatedly and refused...the corruption runs deep...

[Bryan]

The reason it's not surprising is it's the correct decision. It's very refreshing to finally have a speaker who has integrity, and doesn't cow-tow to increasingly ridiculous attacks from the left.

[mentalfloss]

The reason it's not surprising is it's the correct decision. It's very refreshing to finally have a speaker who has integrity, and doesn't cow-tow to increasingly ridiculous attacks from the left.

You think a Conservative speaker would "cow-tow to attacks from the left" ??

Anyway, a "lie" is somewhat different from "misrepresentation" or "misleading". The government did not outright lie to the public, but they did mislead them which is considerably offensive you when you realize it was a $14 Billion concealment.

And the Speaker's position makes an even better case against the government anyway. We wouldn't want to actually aid the credibility of this government by showing that they selected an honest speaker. That would mean the opposition actually has to do some work.

Edited May 8, 2012 by mentalfloss

[Topaz]

The reason it's not surprising is it's the correct decision. It's very refreshing to finally have a speaker who has integrity, and doesn't cow-tow to increasingly ridiculous attacks from the left.

So what was so wrong about the former speaker? The Tories even said that he was just and fair, so perhaps you never watched QP when he was speaker?

[Rick]

The reason it's not surprising is it's the correct decision. It's very refreshing to finally have a speaker who has integrity, and doesn't cow-tow to increasingly ridiculous attacks from the left.

Is that what today's Harper Talicons talking points memo said to say?

My only question is: How much money did Andrew Scheer get to turn an ignorant blind eye to it.

[cybercoma]

So what was so wrong about the former speaker? The Tories even said that he was just and fair, so perhaps you never watched QP when he was speaker?

Not to mention Scheer supported his ruling almost exclusively on decisions by Milliken (sp?).

[Guest Peeves]

The reason it's not surprising is it's the correct decision. It's very refreshing to finally have a speaker who has integrity, and doesn't cow-tow to increasingly ridiculous attacks from the left.

The decision may well be correct, but the entire affair leaves a stink that pervades the entire F35 procurement strategy. Obviously the 'whole truth' has been avoided, buried in b/s and $$$$ cost evasion.