olpfan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 Well whatever keeps him in check. Some of his ministers actions notwithstanding, Harper is a very smart and tactical man. He's one of the smoothest political operators this country has seen in a long time. can't argue there... he practically helped drive a wedge between chretien & martin beautifully and then watched them tear each other apart .. but he seems to be losing that cleverness Quote
j44 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 well, as long as he doesn't govern like harper he's at least an improvement..I can't stand how all kinds of Mps get away with everything harper has let them get away with..even Mulroney kicked his mps out of the party when he found them doing something they shouldn't..that is my biggest dislike about harper I rarely hear someone complain that Harper is too lenient. And by rarely I mean never. MacKay has blown his chances in my opinion. This times a million. Harper has sidelined him pretty well IMO. Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 I rarely hear someone complain that Harper is too lenient. And by rarely I mean never. You do realize he rarely punishes his people when they get caught right? Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) https://p.twimg.com/AnCSAybCAAAg-Sg.jpg Can you imagine that ^ every day as your prime minister? sheeshokay why does it never let me post pictures Edited March 3, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
Guest Derek L Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 You do realize he rarely punishes his people when they get caught right? *cough* Rahim Jaffer *cough* Helena Guergis *cough* Garth Turner...... Quote
Guest Derek L Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 As for the OP: Kenny/Moore/Alexander in no particular order.... Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 *cough* Rahim Jaffer *cough* Helena Guergis *cough* Garth Turner...... Helen Guergis did what again? clearly can't be as bad as what Bev Oda and Tony Clement and VIc Toews have done Quote
UofGPolitico Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Posted March 3, 2012 Helen Guergis did what again? clearly can't be as bad as what Bev Oda and Tony Clement and VIc Toews have done She referred to Charlottetown as a "hell hole". Quote
j44 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 Helen Guergis did what again? clearly can't be as bad as what Bev Oda and Tony Clement and VIc Toews have done He's not going to throw a high profile cabinet member under the bus publicly. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 *cough* Rahim Jaffer *cough* Helena Guergis *cough* Garth Turner...... How'd he punish Jaffer? The only time he punishes people is when it's some kind of sex scandal. Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 How'd he punish Jaffer? The only time he punishes people is when it's some kind of sex scandal. He didn't punish Toews..he just reshuffled him into another high powered position .. Quote
cybercoma Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 She referred to Charlottetown as a "hell hole". Vic Toews referred to the majority of Canadians as "standing with pedophiles". Nonetheless, you're right, he has punished MPs in the past, when it served a greater political purpose. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 https://p.twimg.com/AnCSAybCAAAg-Sg.jpg Can you imagine that ^ every day as your prime minister? sheesh okay why does it never let me post pictures I think John Baird is great. He's not really a red tory but his views on social issues are "liberal", "progressive", "non-conservative". Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 He didn't punish Toews..he just reshuffled him into another high powered position .. Toews wasn't in a sex scandal though, was he? Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 I think John Baird is great. He's not really a red tory but his views on social issues are "liberal", "progressive", "non-conservative". what do you mean? he voted against gay marriage and I bet he's pro life, against assisted suicide and marijuana legalization.. what makes him "progressive"? Quote
UofGPolitico Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Posted March 3, 2012 Vic Toews referred to the majority of Canadians as "standing with pedophiles". Nonetheless, you're right, he has punished MPs in the past, when it served a greater political purpose. LOL, exactly. Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) Toews wasn't in a sex scandal though, was he? Harper found out about Vic Toews affairs and fathering a baby with another woman..that was when he was minister of family values.. harper did shuffle him the hell out of there only to give him some other high power position Should have booted his ass out of the party Edited March 3, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 She referred to Charlottetown as a "hell hole". I'm being serious though, what did Guergis do to piss off Harper so badly? she is suing him now lol' Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 what do you mean? he voted against gay marriage and I bet he's pro life, against assisted suicide and marijuana legalization.. what makes him "progressive"? He voted in favour of same-sex marriage both provincially and federally, I believe he is pro-choice, and he supported the "bathroom bill" last year. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 Harper found out about Vic Toews affairs and fathering a baby with another woman..that was when he was minister of family values.. harper did shuffle him the hell out of there only to give him some other high power position Should have booted his ass out of the party Not really a scandal, I don't see how it would effect his job. Quote
j44 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 Harper found out about Vic Toews affairs and fathering a baby with another woman..that was when he was minister of family values.. harper did shuffle him the hell out of there only to give him some other high power position Should have booted his ass out of the party The PM isn't going to throw away one of his most experience MPs. He too pragmatic for that. Also, I would bet my life Baird is in favor of gay marriage. I just have a....feeling...yeah... Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 He voted in favour of same-sex marriage both provincially and federally, I believe he is pro-choice, and he supported the "bathroom bill" last year. ill have to check on that Quote
Smallc Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 Also, I would bet my life Baird is in favor of gay marriage. I just have a....feeling...yeah... Yes, I've heard about that.....feeling. Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Posted March 3, 2012 Not really a scandal, I don't see how it would effect his job. huh are you joking? minister of family values who is everything but family values and you think that wouldnt affect his job? good god Quote
UofGPolitico Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Posted March 3, 2012 Yes, I've heard about that.....feeling. Some have had that feeling about other high profile Conservative ministers too..... Quote
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