Newfoundlander Posted March 4, 2012 Author Report Posted March 4, 2012 Ya and I also heard people say that Earnie Eves 2003 televised debate was strong.Where as I had said it was a wipe-out from the get go.Who was right? I'm just calling a spade a spade! WWWTT So do you attack New Democrates for spreading anti Nash propaganda? Quote
WWWTT Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 When they start talking proportional representation, I'm forced to remember that I'm not actually on board with NDP policy in a number of areas. Thats odd considering the NDP garnered 32%+ of the vote in Saskatchewan with o% seats? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Jack Weber Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 What's the big deal of thinking about joining another party and just look at how many politicans belong to other parties during their career. Rae was provincial NDP but federal Liberal, the PM was liberal as a young person then a PC, then a reformer/alliance and now a Conservative. It's not that big a deal... But,assuming Mulcair does win the party leadership,you could easily see that this would something the Conservative Party uses in one of its intra-election character asassination smear ads... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
cybercoma Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 Thats odd considering the NDP garnered 32%+ of the vote in Saskatchewan with o% seats? WWWTT Odd how the Conservatives can get just 7% more than that across the entire country and have a majority government, eh? Quote
Evening Star Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 They were talking mixed-PR. I'm aware of that but I don't support that system either. Quote
WWWTT Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 So do you attack New Democrates for spreading anti Nash propaganda? Attack is a strong word. Pointing out facts are good. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
punked Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 It's not that big a deal... But,assuming Mulcair does win the party leadership,you could easily see that this would something the Conservative Party uses in one of its intra-election character asassination smear ads... Naaaaa he just says he was with the Liberals because he was in Quebec and at the time there was a fight to keep Quebec in Canada and the Liberals were the strongest party to fight that fight. Once the one of most important fights in Canada ended he moved to party he believed would be best for Canada and reflects his values better. Done and done. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 4, 2012 Author Report Posted March 4, 2012 Attack is a strong word. Pointing out facts are good. WWWTT You should have tried that a few minutes ago. Quote
Evening Star Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 When they start talking proportional representation, I'm forced to remember that I'm not actually on board with NDP policy in a number of areas. Also when the Sherbrooke Declaration comes up. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 4, 2012 Author Report Posted March 4, 2012 It's not that big a deal... But,assuming Mulcair does win the party leadership,you could easily see that this would something the Conservative Party uses in one of its intra-election character asassination smear ads... Especially if they have any material on meetings he had with them or what not. Quote
Evening Star Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 Naaaaa he just says he was with the Liberals because he was in Quebec and at the time there was a fight to keep Quebec in Canada and the Liberals were the strongest party to fight that fight. Once the one of most important fights in Canada ended he moved to party he believed would be best for Canada and reflects his values better. Done and done. It's not even like there's a provincial NPD. It's a non-issue. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 4, 2012 Author Report Posted March 4, 2012 Also when the Sherbrooke Declaration comes up. I think it's ridiculous but I could support that! Quote
WWWTT Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 You should have tried that a few minutes ago. Yes very mature of you,if you have nothing more to add about the debate and run for the leadership then we are only wasting everyones time WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
j44 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) Do you really believe I have only read one or two of your comments? Why are you being so anemant about your views? WWWTT I believe that you either didn't bother to check or that you are so convinced that you know my views more than I know them that you will see whatever you want to see. And I'm adamant about my views because they are my views and you are telling me you think you know them better than I do. I'm just calling a spade a spade! WWWTT I'll be offline for a few hours so you have that time to find my apparently conservative comments and post them here. I'm afraid you'll find several comments about Nathan Cullen and how he impresses me and how I think Mulcair will make a very capable leader. Edited March 4, 2012 by j44 Quote
cybercoma Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 It's not even like there's a provincial NPD. It's a non-issue. this. it's a dead-end street for the cpc. Quote
Jack Weber Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) Also when the Sherbrooke Declaration comes up. This is a huge one... The Sherbrooke Declaration,as it relates to Quebec and assymetrical federalism,is essentially a verbose redux on the failed idea's of Mr.Mulroney and the notion of a "Distinct Society" clause in the constitution that would allow Quebec special veto powers based solely on "culture"... It's a ridiculous idea on the face of it... Edited March 4, 2012 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
WWWTT Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 I believe that you either didn't bother to check or that you are so convinced that you know my views more than I know them that you will see whatever you want to see. And I'm adamant about my views because they are my views and you are telling me you think you know them better than I do. I'll be offline for a few hours so you have that time to find my apparently conservative comments and post them here. I'm afraid you'll find several comments about Nathan Cullen and how he impresses me and how I think Mulcair will make a very capable leader. Take a few hours?All I need is a few seconds to tell you that a true NDPer would not attack one of their strongest members on an opinion! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
cybercoma Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 Imagine the Sherbrooke Declaration on the other foot in the rest of Canada. It doesn't seem so stupid in that light. Quote
Jack Weber Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 Imagine the Sherbrooke Declaration on the other foot in the rest of Canada. It doesn't seem so stupid in that light. It's not a "what if" proposition,however... The Sherbrooke Declaration clearly says it wants Quebec to have the very powers for Quebec that this country rejected twice over 20 years ago... The entire notion is a non-starter... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Evening Star Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 Imagine the Sherbrooke Declaration on the other foot in the rest of Canada. It doesn't seem so stupid in that light. I'm not sure what you mean by this. I don't really see how "opting out of federal programs with full compensation" or "accepting the decision of 50% + 1 in a referendum on Quebec's political future within Canada" could be applied to 'the rest of Canada', even as a thought experiment. Quote
Evening Star Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) Tbh, a party with the political culture of the NDP and the policies in the 2011 Liberal platform might come closer to my ideal, especially if they also advocated for weakened party discipline and significantly more liberal copyright laws. Edit: So why do I oppose a merger? I'll have to think that through. Edited March 4, 2012 by Evening Star Quote
Evening Star Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 To clarify, I oppose PR or MMP as long as it's some sort of party list-based system because I think that would give too much power to political parties. There may be other forms of PR that I could be open to. However, I'd be satisfied if we kept the existing FPTP system and allowed MPs more autonomy. Quote
cybercoma Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) I would support run-off voting or single-transferable vote. Edited March 4, 2012 by cybercoma Quote
punked Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 I would support run-off voting or single-transferable vote. Run off the only way to go. Quote
Evening Star Posted March 4, 2012 Report Posted March 4, 2012 Is that the same as the AV system that the Brits voted on? Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.