Guest Peeves Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 Rec'd today from Minister Kenny Earlier today I provided an update on our government’s efforts to crack down on citizenship fraud. We want to be clear that Canadian citizenship is not for sale, and those who do not play by the rules will have the full strength of Canadian law levied against them. If you are interested in learning more please find below a link to the official news release. News Release – Canadian citizenship not for sale: Minister Kenney provides update of investigations into citizenship fraudMontreal, December 9, 2011 — The Government of Canada is now investigating 6,500 people from more than 100 countries for fraudulently attempting to gain citizenship or maintain permanent resident status, Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism Minister Jason Kenney announced today. "“Canadian citizenship is not for sale,”" said Minister Kenney. "“Canadians are generous people, but have no tolerance or patience for people who don’t play by the rules and who lie or cheat to become a Canadian citizen. The Government will apply the full strength of Canadian law to those who have obtained citizenship fraudulently.”" http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2011/2011-12-09.asp I recall the influx of 'Canadian' repatriation and the cost when when there was danger in the 'homeland' and suddenly passports where dug up by 'likely' bogus Canadians at large. All too long we have paid out benefits for false Canadians, for so called Canadians only of convenience. There are thousands who have cheated our citizenship policies. Our country is accepting more immigrants,(@ 250,000/yr.) than any other country, it's only fair that they be legitimate! Thankfully our government will now tighten the procedures. All too long Canadians governments have allowed cheating in our immigration. It's no wonder the USA tightened our border given the fact that we have no idea where many Canadians are or how long. There are stipulated requirements for both obtaining citizenship--years in country,...and how often you you are required to return as stipulated in link, To date, of the 4,400 permanent residents who have been flagged, nearly 1,400 people have withdrawn or abandoned their citizenship application because of new scrutiny.Permanent residents must acquire three years of residence out of four years to apply for Canadian citizenship. To retain their status as permanent residents, they must be physically present in Canada for two years out of five. Quote
cybercoma Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 There's already a thread on this here: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=19962 Quote
Guest Peeves Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 There's already a thread on this here: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=19962 Thanks. Quote
jbg Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 One of my "peeves" is thread multiplication. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Shakeyhands Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 One of my "peeves" is thread multiplication. One of mine is when people dredge up old threads for no reason. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Guest Peeves Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 One of mine is when people dredge up old threads for no reason. When 'people' have something to say , add or comment on they might 'dredge' up whatever they want. Of course other 'people' may certainly say there's 'no reason' even if one is provided. Quote
Tilter Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 When 'people' have something to say , add or comment on they might 'dredge' up whatever they want. Of course other 'people' may certainly say there's 'no reason' even if one is provided. OK people --- quit dredging up insults By the way---- Merry Christmas to all. Quote
jbg Posted December 15, 2011 Report Posted December 15, 2011 OK people --- quit dredging up insults By the way---- Merry Christmas to all. And Happy Chanukah! Recognizing that would have to come from outside Canada given Canada's lack of a Jewish community. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Guest abroaduni Posted December 17, 2011 Report Posted December 17, 2011 Hi, I need to know the rules of Canadian citizenship.Because I am looking for moving to Canada for a business purpose permanently with my family.So,Is anyone here,who could help me in this case?I would be very grateful to you. Thanks in advance..... canada immigration canada visa Quote
MiddleClassCentrist Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 Maybe it should be? If it was... say a $50,000 one time fee... We could make $12 500 000 000 a year just on immigration. Of course it would be lower than that number because fewer people would immigrate if there was a large investment cost. But even at 1/10th, 1.25Billion a year would at least help fund Harper Government and their irrational spending on unnecessary crime measures and military jets that don't actually suit the purpose we need. Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
cybercoma Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 Maybe it should be? We did that. It was called the Chinese Immigration Act, 1885. Quote
wittygecko Posted February 20, 2012 Report Posted February 20, 2012 I totally agree that the Canadian citizenship is not for sale, I went through the process myself, and it's not so hard if you do study for the Canadian citizenship test, pass it and become a Canadian. Voila! Quote
Bonam Posted February 20, 2012 Report Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) Selling a certain % of citizenships would actually make sense. It should be some number that is only a portion of the overall amount of immigration. For example, 10000 citizenships per year could be auctioned off (pending security/background checks, etc). The price would be set by the market: it would be as high as it could be to attract no more than and no less than 10000 people from around the world to make the purchase. The people that would immigrate/become citizens through this process would be only the ones that: 1) really want to and 2) have a proven ability to make money or a lot of built up wealth, which can contribute to the economy. That's already much more of a filter than many of the immigrants we take in. I dunno about Canada, where becoming a citizen is relatively easy, but here in the US, if I could buy my citizenship for somewhere below about $30-50k, I'd probably just do it, save the years and years of hassle and paperwork associated with working here as an "alien", avoid having to file tax returns in multiple jurisdictions, be able to apply for a security clearance required for many jobs in my field, etc. The simplicity and reduced headache would be well worth a year's savings, in my estimation. Edited February 20, 2012 by Bonam Quote
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