Homicide Rate Lowest in 44 Years in 2010

[Smallc]

Manitoba and Saskatchewan have severe prison overcrowding issues...but Manitoba and Saskatchewan are in unique situations.

Edited October 28, 2011 by Smallc

[blueblood]

Manitoba and Saskatchewan have severe prison overcrowding issues...but Manitoba and Saskatchewan are in unique situations.

A severe wealth gap in a booming economy when there shouldn't be one is a start.

[Shwa]

Good question Shwa.

http://www.csc-scc.gc.ca/text/pblct/forum/e053/e053h-eng.shtml

If the professionals charged with incarceration and rehabilitation can't answer that question, how can laymen?

True and we have been over this a few times.

I suppose what I was getting at is that if the crime rate is falling, and less people are going to jail, there would be less people to re-offend.

[Shwa]

That article where the witness who was in favor of loading up the prison pop. However there is many articles to suggest overcrowding

My link

Although they state methods favorable to your side of the argument, they reinforce my point that there is overcrowding.

He numbers and stats say an x per net of people in a population will commit crime. Raise the population and up goes the prison population based on the numbers. It would take quite a bite out of the crime rate to drop the total amount of people headed to the clink.

When people are either fully rehabilitated or in the slammer they aren't recommitting.

And into that equation, now add the falling crime rate.

[blueblood]

And into that equation, now add the falling crime rate.

The rate is a percentage, not total numbers. If population grows even when the rate drops there are still an increase of number going to jail albeit at a lower rate.

Let's use arbitrary numbers to explain my point and these do not reflect actual crime statistics.

3% of 33 million 990 000

2.9% of 35 million 1 015 000

So it is possible with a falling rate and still more people going to the clink in this scenario, not to mention the overcrowding and political pressure to keep crooks in jail and it's easy to see why they want the new jails built.

[Shwa]

The rate is a percentage, not total numbers. If population grows even when the rate drops there are still an increase of number going to jail albeit at a lower rate.

Let's use arbitrary numbers to explain my point and these do not reflect actual crime statistics.

3% of 33 million 990 000

2.9% of 35 million 1 015 000

So it is possible with a falling rate and still more people going to the clink in this scenario, not to mention the overcrowding and political pressure to keep crooks in jail and it's easy to see why they want the new jails built.

It would be interesting to see the calculations using real crime statistics. I get the percentages, but examples are just that. Problem is, the incarcertation rate will increase inflating the numbers of people going to jails and forcing them into an over-crowded situation - if they are not there already.