jbg Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Posted October 10, 2011 "Transitional justice" Did you mean "transnational"? Either way it's a bad joke. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Michael Hardner Posted October 10, 2011 Report Posted October 10, 2011 Except for the fact that House of Commons and Congress are both political bodies whose representatives are democratically elected. The UN, on the other hand, is certainly not composed of democratically elected members, and don't represent countries, societies, or cultures that adhere to basic standards of modern civilization. Another fantastically stupid comment from our embarrassment of a "forum facilitator". Sorry, but it's still an assembly. I didn't make the comparisons in the views I summarized, others did. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
jbg Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Posted October 10, 2011 Sorry, but it's still an assembly. I didn't make the comparisons in the views I summarized, others did. Even though I totally disagree with you on many issues, I do not consider you to be an "embarassment" as a "facilitator". I think you do a rather good job. Unlike some other forums of both the left and right you have not had me banned. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Michael Hardner Posted October 10, 2011 Report Posted October 10, 2011 Thanks, jbg... Now get back on topic ! Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Bob Posted October 10, 2011 Report Posted October 10, 2011 Did you mean "transnational"? Either way it's a bad joke. I'm mocking a term that was seemingly just coined by our resident communist jacee. She used this nonsense term in the post to which you replied. Quote My blog - bobinisrael.blogspot.com - I am writing on it, again!
Bob Posted October 10, 2011 Report Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) Sorry, but it's still an assembly. I didn't make the comparisons in the views I summarized, others did. Yeah, of course, context is irrelevant. Who cares if the UN isn't democratically formed while the House of Commons and Congress are? Who cares if the operations of the House of Commons and Congress as well as the participants are liable towards real and enforceable domestic law with respect to their conduct in their jobs while those in the UN are not? Just irrelevant details, eh? After all, they're all "assemblies". I can see how these minor details were overlooked by you. Edited October 10, 2011 by Bob Quote My blog - bobinisrael.blogspot.com - I am writing on it, again!
Michael Hardner Posted October 10, 2011 Report Posted October 10, 2011 Yeah, of course, context is irrelevant. Who cares if the UN isn't democratically formed while the House of Commons and Congress are? Who cares if the operations of the House of Commons and Congress as well as the participants are liable towards real and enforceable domestic law with respect to their conduct in their jobs while those in the UN are not? Just irrelevant details, eh? After all, they're all "assemblies". I can see how these minor details were overlooked by you. So are you saying that the fact that the UN isn't elected makes the two points I summarized valid? Or are you saying that that fact is a third point that I left out? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Bob Posted October 10, 2011 Report Posted October 10, 2011 So are you saying that the fact that the UN isn't elected makes the two points I summarized valid? Or are you saying that that fact is a third point that I left out? You have no point. You suggested that somehow those of us who are smart enough to desire the withdrawal of funding for the UN, as we recognize the UN causes much more harm than good on balance, want to do so simply because we don't like opinions espoused by the vermin that you adore. As if it were that simple. Of course, you make no mention of the non-democratic nature of the composition of the UN, while comparing the accountability of the UN's membership and representatives to that of the individuals who are democratically elected to the House of Common and Congress. Again, just a small detail you're overlooking. Nevermind the fact that there is no advantage to modern and civilized states to be members at the UN, only liabilities. Moreover, on balance it causes harm to the broader world (not that I give a damn about the broader world, anyway). Quote My blog - bobinisrael.blogspot.com - I am writing on it, again!
Michael Hardner Posted October 10, 2011 Report Posted October 10, 2011 Ok - it's a third point then. Got it. I'm goad to correct omissions where they occur. Also noted that you don't care about the broader world : Nevermind the fact that there is no advantage to modern and civilized states to be members at the UN, only liabilities. Moreover, on balance it causes harm to the broader world (not that I give a damn about the broader world, anyway). Thanks for clarifying. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Bob Posted October 10, 2011 Report Posted October 10, 2011 It's immoral to "care" for the broader world when it means throwing away public money to systemic "humanitarian programs" that perpetuate and worsen the very problems they claim to be addressing. But of course, these are programs who pretend to care about when we discuss the hypothetical abolition of the UN. "What about those starving Somalians, though?" The only universal morality is self-sufficiency, and not being dependent on the work of others without any fair exchange. I oppose all government funding that gets sent out of the country for foreign "humanitarian aid" where there is no real benefit for us except appeasing unemployed bleeding hearts who are very generous with the money of others. Quote My blog - bobinisrael.blogspot.com - I am writing on it, again!
Bob Posted October 10, 2011 Report Posted October 10, 2011 Ok - it's a third point then. Got it. I'm goad to correct omissions where they occur. Also noted that you don't care about the broader world : Thanks for clarifying. So let me guess, you "care" about starving Somalians? Quote My blog - bobinisrael.blogspot.com - I am writing on it, again!
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