PA should creating desalination plants and sewage treatment facilities

[Guest Peeves]

The Palestinians are there to stay, so why not take necessary steps to improve their future?

They get billions in aid from the E.U. and the USA and from Arab countries.

Arab countries though have been providing less aid than promised. Also, Syria treats Palestinians very badly.

"The Palestinians currently have much more access to water than any country in the Arab world – excluding Lebanon, as it has a large river – and huge strides have been made since 1967, Erdan said."

Truncated, more at link.

Israel continues to supply the Palestinians with freshwater every year, 80 percent above what was required of the country in the Oslo Accords, and if the Palestinians would recycle their sewage water as Israel does with most of its own, the Palestinian water supply would be even greater, according to the minister.

“We told Palestinians we are willing to give them all the knowledge, but they insist on using fresh water and sending us sewage,” Erdan told The Jerusalem Post in an interview on Wednesday. “We are giving them fresh water and getting back sewage.”

http://www.jpost.com/Sci-Tech/Article.aspx?id=237267

also:

See Arab indifference to Palestinians.

Syria’s repression of its Palestinians is no anomaly. In Lebanon, nearly 400,000 Palestinians not only cannot become Lebanese citizens, but also have been barred from more than 70 professions, including medicine, law and engineering. Palestinians in Lebanon are not allowed to own property, and even need a special permit to leave their “refugee” camps. Amnesty International has reported that the treatment of Palestinian refugees in Lebanon is in violation of: a) The International Covenant on Economic, Social, and Cultural Rights; The International Covenant on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination; c) The Convention on the Rights of the Child; d) The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights; e) The Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and; ......) The Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment.

http://frontpagemag.com/2011/09/06/the-arabs-indifference-to-palestinians/

Recently the Syrians have been murdering Palestinian demonstrators.

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[dre]

Palestinians are not even allowed to use their own water without permission from the IDF. They are on strict quotas, that only allow them to use 20% as much water as Israelis use. Israel has built a massive network of wells, pipelines, and pumping stations, and the vast majority of palestinian water is removed without them even getting a sip.

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[bud]

peeves. you are a mouthpiece trying to propagate bs.

you were the one that said the people on board the flotilla ships carried guns and when you were questioned on the misinformation, you did not respond.

here is a real look at the water situation:

Edited September 13, 2011 by bud

[bud]

here is information on how israel allows the sewage from the illegal settlements flow onto palestinian land:

an inconvenient truth that peeves and the rest of the hasbara won't be responding to.

[Guest Peeves]

Palestinians are not even allowed to use their own water without permission from the IDF. They are on strict quotas, that only allow them to use 20% as much water as Israelis use. Israel has built a massive network of wells, pipelines, and pumping stations, and the vast majority of palestinian water is removed without them even getting a sip.

That's crapola.

And,

There were reports of guns on board I cannot prove a negative. Show me my post on the subject if you are going to accuse me.

[bud]

That's crapola.

And,

There were reports of guns on board I cannot prove a negative. Show me my post on the subject if you are going to accuse me.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=19439&view=findpost&p=705763

what reports? show me these reports.

[Guest Peeves]

Palestinians are not even allowed to use their own water without permission from the IDF. They are on strict quotas, that only allow them to use 20% as much water as Israelis use. Israel has built a massive network of wells, pipelines, and pumping stations, and the vast majority of palestinian water is removed without them even getting a sip.

So I am posting propaganda, but anti-Israelis aren't. Got it.

And stop attacking me, that's simply a ploy to ignore facts.

[Guest Peeves]

Palestinians are not even allowed to use their own water without permission from the IDF. They are on strict quotas, that only allow them to use 20% as much water as Israelis use. Israel has built a massive network of wells, pipelines, and pumping stations, and the vast majority of palestinian water is removed without them even getting a sip.

That's your opinion. Give me unbiased source facts. I gave you links,I gave you sources, details, dispute the links facts with unbiased facts.

You give me your opinion I accept that is what you might believe, but it stands only as an opinion.

[bud]

So I am posting propaganda, but anti-Israelis aren't. Got it.

And stop attacking me, that's simply a ploy to ignore facts.

maybe you are unintentionally spreading misinformation. i recommend looking at these situations a little deeper than only posting from jpost and the highly biased frontpagemagazine site.

have a look at the videos produced by an israeli human rights organization about the water and sewage situation in the occupied territories. it should give you a better perspective and understanding of the facts.

[Guest Peeves]

Palestinians are not even allowed to use their own water without permission from the IDF. They are on strict quotas, that only allow them to use 20% as much water as Israelis use. Israel has built a massive network of wells, pipelines, and pumping stations, and the vast majority of palestinian water is removed without them even getting a sip.

That's your opinion. Give me unbiased source facts. I gave you links,I gave you sources, details, dispute the links facts with unbiased facts.

You give me your opinion I accept that is what you might believe, but it stands only as an opinion.

[Guest Peeves]

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=19439&view=findpost&p=705763

what reports? show me these reports.

My post from your response

And they also were waiting with guns, steel rods etc. They started the fracas. They well knew Israelis board every such vessel and do so with no violence. It was a trap and Israel fell for it. Had they simply boarded with guns pointed prepared to shoot, the attack by 'pacifists' wouldn't have happened.

I can't fault the Israelis for responding once attacked.

At that time there were reports of guns found on board. I think in the circumstance of a bush wacking by militants prepared with many weapons, a gun or two was likely aboard as well.

[GostHacked]

My post from your response

At that time there were reports of guns found on board. I think in the circumstance of a bush wacking by militants prepared with many weapons, a gun or two was likely aboard as well.

On the high seas I'd have guns as well. It's not just Israeli's that will board your ship.

[bud]

My post from your response

At that time there were reports of guns found on board. I think in the circumstance of a bush wacking by militants prepared with many weapons, a gun or two was likely aboard as well.

no.

no guns were on board. not even the israeli government has accused them of having guns. unless, of course, you're able to show otherwise.

you need to be a little more responsible when you gather and share information.

Edited September 13, 2011 by bud

[Guest Peeves]

maybe you are unintentionally spreading misinformation. i recommend looking at these situations a little deeper than only posting from jpost and the highly biased frontpagemagazine site.

have a look at the videos produced by an israeli human rights organization about the water and sewage situation in the occupied territories. it should give you a better perspective and understanding of the facts.

Maybe you are. Facts are not facts when from an anti Zionist site and if there's an agenda and a bias

Only a fool would accept propaganda made video as fact.

There are many propaganda sources that also say Jews use blood for matzo Just because there are sources saying so, you would believe that blood libel?

http://www.memritv.org/subject/en/362.htm

[Guest Peeves]

no.

no guns were on board. not even the israeli government has accused them of having guns. unless, of course, you're able to show otherwise.

you need to be a little more responsible when you gather and share information.

Perhaps the report I read was based on this Al Jazeera article. I no longer recall, but

I would not be otherwise surprised that with so many waiting in ambush there might be a gun.

Most of the information about what happened on the single ship where violence broke out came from Israel, which cut off all communication to and from the activists and provided testimony and video evidence that its soldiers came under attack by activists armed with metal rods, knives, slingshots and two pistols snatched from the troops.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37423584/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/bloody-israeli-raid-flotilla-sparks-crisis/#.Tm-7s-z4Jbk

[Wild Bill]

To drift back to the OP, perhaps the reason the Palestinians don't build water desalinization and recycling plants is because they only know how to launch rockets and destroy!

They really haven't made a name for themselves by building anything!

[Bob]

Palestinians are not even allowed to use their own water without permission from the IDF. They are on strict quotas, that only allow them to use 20% as much water as Israelis use. Israel has built a massive network of wells, pipelines, and pumping stations, and the vast majority of palestinian water is removed without them even getting a sip.

Nothing belongs to them, anyways. Moreover, the infrastructure was built by, and continues to be maintained and expanded by, Israel. Also, they have much lower "needs" for water given their virtually non-existent industry. There is no such thing as "Palestinian water".

[bud]

Perhaps the report I read was based on this Al Jazeera article. I no longer recall, but

I would not be otherwise surprised that with so many waiting in ambush there might be a gun.

see. you are unable to correct yourself even though you can't find any report that says the people on board were waiting with guns.

it's unfortunate that you've chosen to take the route of someone who purposely spreads misinformation and even when it's proven that it's misinformation, you are unable to correct yourself.