Another reason to be proud of Canadians

[Guest Derek L]

Clever bastards those anarchists, especially when they act together.

John Goodman in The Big Lebowski knew how to deal with anarchists. "We believe in NUSSINK!"

[RNG]

To me it makes as much sense to riot here as it does at the G8/G20 ... NONE.

[Scotty]

What kills me though - and we can blame these people too - is that they had all these outdoor televisions located in the prime city real estate. What were they thinking?!?!

They were thinking that a bunch of legal adults ought to be able to get together to watch a civic event, in this case a hockey game, without there being a big problem.

Personally, I see it as another indication of the spoiled nature of today's younger people. Vancouver and its neighboring communities are probably the epicenter of self-worship in Canada, governed by politicians desperate to tell people whatever they want to know, and to be inclusive, affirmative, and supportive to anyone and everyone. They're not into the 'personal responsibility' thing out there. Whatever is wrong in your life is someone elses fault, not yours. So you take a bunch of adult babies, otherwise known as twentysomethings, who have never been held to task for much of anything, who don't have or like responsibility, who have been coddled all their lives, liquor them up, and then set them loose in the downtown without any adult supervision. What do you THINK would happen?

Personally, I don't think anyone under thirty should be allowed to drink... or vote. They're still ignorant, shiftless children.

[Tilter]

losing in game 7 on home ice in the Stanley cup final

their have been riots over far lesser things

And all started & participated in by IDIOTS

[msj]

Personally, I don't think anyone under thirty should be allowed to drink... or vote. They're still ignorant, shiftless children.

I don't think you have the demographic quite right: we should not allow anyone under thirty, who is also a male, to drink.

There were very few "girls" breaking windows, lighting cars on a fire, and punching out other people.

[Tilter]

of course they were, at least half of them in the photos were wearing Canucks jerseys which cost $100 to $300 each.

Canucks fans are the worst in the NHL by a wide margin and have had that distinction for a long time.

And, one of nice things about those photos & videos is that they will be used in court to convict those thoughtless shits.

Now, will the courts make them pay restitution? That is the only fair way to handle this type of situation & if a few of these people are stuck with hundreds of thousands of dollars in court decreed debt it might deter a few other idiots from doing the same. or, being by nature idiots, perhaps not. Either way, these people will be plagued by debts till the debts are satisfied. Most of the damage will be paid for by insurance companies and there are few entities in the world as vindictive as insurance companies.

Edited June 18, 2011 by Tilter

[William Ashley]

Vancouvers riot was very similiar to the G20 but far more incited.

I have information I can't digress but there were multiple organized forces at work on all sides. It was a staged demonstration and instance of social engineering.

The police imo really messed up in firing the gas canisters, for multiple reasons.

1. Starting a stampede in a packed city street put people at grave risk.

2. They police could have advanced with a moving barrier.

3. Police should have started on both ends in clearing people not one -- providing people a means of moving.

4. Police should have offered a protective service for some for example free public transportation - example buses to take people out of the center. (and protected or the APC's they have...)

5. A 10 minute timespan was not sufficient. They needed to keep things calm instead they incited emotions.

IMO they wanted it to happen and the govt was involved in its development.

I think overall they are using it as a pawn peice.

IMO duress and mob rage should mitigate non criminality of the occurence.

The real risk is that the riot act was read and so anyone who was present is potentially subject to life imprisionment.

A really sad day for the administration, as many steps could have been taking to reduce harm.

It is difficult in these circumstances to know what really happened, and that is concerning.

And yes most definately cars and windows are a target so why wern't cars removed? And why wasn't a safety lane kept clear, and why wern't the barriers put infront of windows and locked together. Instead you have barriers that can be used to crush bystandards or police in the event of a human stampede.

The situation was grossly engineered and desired imo.

Of course we hear next to nothing about injuries or arrests.. it is black out more or less.

100 people atleast were arrested if they get real jail time (rioting holds a potential life sentence if the riot act is read which it was) then that is atleat 5 million dollars a year for those 100 people.

Also the jail time = the whole facebook reporting phenomenon is aother social engineering spur getting people to narc on people.

Fact is that photos can be photoshoped so to can videos.

It is a quagmire of policing that was water thrown down by the administrators.

Two other points.

1. What happened to all the security city spending from the olympics.. still ineffective to prevent a mass riot?

2. Why let schools out early.

Many little why'd that happen contexts are at play and it is clear that this was a broad attempt at potential civil risk.

If a riot was likely then why wasn't the reserve called up? Was it, what side were they on?

It is absolute idiocy. I stayed up and watched the game cause I was currious on the riot news.. and sure enough.

Edited June 18, 2011 by William Ashley

[the C]

I don't think you have the demographic quite right: we should not allow anyone under thirty, who is also a male, to drink.

There were very few "girls" breaking windows, lighting cars on a fire, and punching out other people.

ok... i'm 24 and i take offense to be compared to those idiots

[msj]

ok... i'm 24 and i take offense to be compared to those idiots

I wasn't being clear enough in my sarcasm.

As for being compared to these "idiots" well, I don't think you and me are so much different than some of them: The sad, painful truth about the Vancouver rioters’ true identities

The picture of a young man attempting to set a police cruiser on fire by lighting a rag stuffed in its gas tank has received widespread Internet attention. He’s been identified as an academic all-star who was supposed to be heading to the U.S. in fall on a water polo scholarship.

Water Polo Canada announced Friday that the 17-year-old has been suspended as a member of the junior men’s national team. He has apparently turned himself into police, although the Vancouver Police Department refused to confirm this.

Ok, granted I never did get a water polo scholarship, but I got scholarships nevertheless.

[Tilter]

Vancouvers riot was very similiar to the G20 but far more incited.

I have information I can't digress but there were multiple organized forces at work on all sides. It was a staged demonstration and instance of social engineering.

The police imo really messed up in firing the gas canisters, for multiple reasons.

1. Starting a stampede in a packed city street put people at grave risk.

2. They police could have advanced with a moving barrier.

3. Police should have started on both ends in clearing people not one -- providing people a means of moving.

4. Police should have offered a protective service for some for example free public transportation - example buses to take people out of the center. (and protected or the APC's they have...)

5. A 10 minute timespan was not sufficient. They needed to keep things calm instead they incited emotions.

IMO they wanted it to happen and the govt was involved in its development.

I think overall they are using it as a pawn peice.

IMO duress and mob rage should mitigate non criminality of the occurence.

The real risk is that the riot act was read and so anyone who was present is potentially subject to life imprisionment.

A really sad day for the administration, as many steps could have been taking to reduce harm.

It is difficult in these circumstances to know what really happened, and that is concerning.

And yes most definately cars and windows are a target so why wern't cars removed? And why wasn't a safety lane kept clear, and why wern't the barriers put infront of windows and locked together. Instead you have barriers that can be used to crush bystandards or police in the event of a human stampede.

The situation was grossly engineered and desired imo.

Of course we hear next to nothing about injuries or arrests.. it is black out more or less.

100 people atleast were arrested if they get real jail time (rioting holds a potential life sentence if the riot act is read which it was) then that is atleat 5 million dollars a year for those 100 people.

Also the jail time = the whole facebook reporting phenomenon is aother social engineering spur getting people to narc on people.

Fact is that photos can be photoshoped so to can videos.

It is a quagmire of policing that was water thrown down by the administrators.

Two other points.

1. What happened to all the security city spending from the olympics.. still ineffective to prevent a mass riot?

2. Why let schools out early.

Many little why'd that happen contexts are at play and it is clear that this was a broad attempt at potential civil risk.

If a riot was likely then why wasn't the reserve called up? Was it, what side were they on?

It is absolute idiocy. I stayed up and watched the game cause I was currious on the riot news.. and sure enough.

According to this wordy rant the problem was precipitated by the police force, engineered by faulty city thinking & federal failure in not calling out the Army. I guess you think it's OK for our youth to riot as long as the cops fire teargas, the city fails to provide an force of police to protect businesses and the Army stays out of it. --- asinine thinking on your part or the part of anyone else who agrees . If the police use tasers---- too much force--- rubber bullets --- the same argument--- How about all major cities buying a group of water cannons--- would that please your sensitive feelings?

The blame for the riots are in one corner only and it is that of the morons who rioted. No one else is to blame no matter how anyone tries to excuse them