GWiz Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 I don't think people advocating from the left side understand just how wrong they are about this. Maybe, I wouldn't know since I'm not on the Left... The MIDDLE is the place to be, easier to see both sides that way... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
Bryan Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 Maybe, I wouldn't know since I'm not on the Left... The MIDDLE is the place to be, easier to see both sides that way... If that were even remotely true, you wouldn't think that Harper was a far right extremist. Quote
GWiz Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 If that were even remotely true, you wouldn't think that Harper was a far right extremist. I dunno, seems to me selling out Canada to US interests, same as MORONey did; like awards to Lockheed Martin the Mega US arms contractor, - Navy Refits, - Canadian Census, and now an "open ended at any cost" - F-35 contract, all without any "competition" seems pretty extreme and VERY "Right wing" to me... Of course thinking that "Harper Government" should replace "Government of Canada" on anything in any form is CERTAINLY EXTREME and seeing who's doing it certainly makes it "right wing"... Then there's copying the "methodology" of the "Sponsorship Scandal" to promote his Harper Regime, that's only Right Wing Extremism in thinking that he could get away with it... Then there's Harper's total contempt of Parliament, his stacking of the Senate and a whole bunch of corrupt and/or stupid people populating the Harper Regime benches... All in all I think my "assessment" is pretty much "on the money"... OH, did I forget to mention his unqualified support for Israel his distain for "Global Warming" and the environment in general, his being in bed with Corporations, his total lack of accountabitity for a RECORD $56 BILLION deficit, his trashing of the UN undermining Canada's seat on the UNSC and - - - oh never mind, there's just too much of it... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
madmax Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 I dunno, seems to me selling out Canada to US interests, same as MORONey did; like awards to Lockheed Martin the Mega US arms contractor, - Navy Refits, - Canadian Census, and now an "open ended at any cost" - F-35 contract, all without any "competition" seems pretty extreme and VERY "Right wing" to me... Short of the Census, This would be Liberal Policy. Especially the selling out of Canadian Resources. Mulroney did the FTA with the US, NAFTA was done with Chretien and since then, both Liberal and Conservative Governments have been rushing out to third world countries for the next lopsided trade deal. Of course thinking that "Harper Government" should replace "Government of Canada" on anything in any form is CERTAINLY EXTREME and seeing who's doing it certainly makes it "right wing"... The Chretien Government, the Martin Government, the Mcguinty Government, the Harris Government, The Romanov Government,the Doer Government, the Campbell Government, the Wall Government, the Darrel Dexter Government.... Shocking, just shocking... Then there's copying the "methodology" of the "Sponsorship Scandal" to promote his Harper Regime, that's only Right Wing Extremism in thinking that he could get away with it... This is government accountability and corruption that should make Reformers upset. But they lost their Reformist vision long long ago. Corruption is not a left right issue, but the fact that the Conservatives defend it, is very troubling.Then there's Harper's total contempt of Parliament, his stacking of the Senate and a whole bunch of corrupt and/or stupid people populating the Harper Regime benches... There certainly is. The Senate needs to be abolished, otherwise it will be filled with Liberal Corrupt and stupid people. All in all I think my "assessment" is pretty much "on the money"... OH, did I forget to mention his unqualified support for Israel his distain for "Global Warming" and the environment in general, his being in bed with Corporations, his total lack of accountabitity for a RECORD $56 BILLION deficit, his trashing of the UN undermining Canada's seat on the UNSC and - - - oh never mind, there's just too much of it... Record $56 Billion is fiscal incompetence. Trashing the UN and undermining Canada at the same time is political incompetence. Being in Bed with Corporations, leaves the Liberals sharing the same bed and uncomfortable as the "other lover". Quote
fellowtraveller Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 I don't think people advocating from the left side understand just how wrong they are about this. The Liberals and the Cons have long known that you survive and perhaps thrive smack in the middle of the polticial spectrum. Let us hope the NDP never learn this reality, so far they have stubbornly resisted the idea. Quote The government should do something.
GWiz Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 Short of the Census, This would be Liberal Policy. Especially the selling out of Canadian Resources. Mulroney did the FTA with the US, NAFTA was done with Chretien and since then, both Liberal and Conservative Governments have been rushing out to third world countries for the next lopsided trade deal. The Chretien Government, the Martin Government, the Mcguinty Government, the Harris Government, The Romanov Government,the Doer Government, the Campbell Government, the Wall Government, the Darrel Dexter Government.... Shocking, just shocking... This is government accountability and corruption that should make Reformers upset. But they lost their Reformist vision long long ago. Corruption is not a left right issue, but the fact that the Conservatives defend it, is very troubling. There certainly is. The Senate needs to be abolished, otherwise it will be filled with Liberal Corrupt and stupid people. Record $56 Billion is fiscal incompetence. Trashing the UN and undermining Canada at the same time is political incompetence. Being in Bed with Corporations, leaves the Liberals sharing the same bed and uncomfortable as the "other lover". Nice of you to AGREE with my assessment of the Harper Regime... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
Rovik Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 The opposition pushed for the auto bail outs and they pushed for even MORE stimulus spending. Go back and read guys. Funny how selective the left wing memory is. The left pushed for both of these things everyday during question period and in the media. The NDP praises Hamas and Hezbollah and boos Israel offending Jewish people in Canada including Mulclair who spoke out about it. More selective memory. Please cite where the NDP actually praise Hamas and Hezbollah. If you can't, well this would be another example of a wild statement about the NDP with no basis in fact and meant to scaremonger. As far as I know, the NDP are looking for a more balanced approach in regards to the Israelis and the Palestians, compared to what the Conservatives approach is. Quote
madmax Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 If there is one leader who will definitly be gone after this election it's Jack Layton, his health isn't great, he's not young, he's been leader a long time and now it seems he will be facing pressure within the party to leave. Conservative Hack Quote
GWiz Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 NAFTA was done with Chretien Check your facts... and since then, both Liberal and Conservative Governments have been rushing out to third world countries for the next lopsided trade deal. Yup, good thing too, at least with third world (actually mostly 2nd world) countries Canada can get FAIR TRADE into the deal, unlike the one MORONey did with the U.S. of A., which is what Canada needs to do... There certainly is. The Senate needs to be abolished, otherwise it will be filled with Liberal Corrupt and stupid people. Abolish the senate and replace it with what? Or are you saying absolute power should be bestowed on whatever "Government of the Day" Canada happens to end up with? Allowing them to ignore every law that's in place in Canada to prevent just that from happening... The ultimate Fascist or the opposite Marxist dream one could say... Record $56 Billion is fiscal incompetence. Correct... Trashing the UN and undermining Canada at the same time is political incompetence. Plus very stupid, but essentially Correct... Being in Bed with Corporations, leaves the Liberals sharing the same bed and uncomfortable as the "other lover". Check your facts again... Actual numbers tell quite a different story... One could even call the Liberals "the ordinary People's Party" ... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
madmax Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Check your facts... Sure can lets check them. Chretien was elected to a Majority Government in 1993. http://www.international.gc.ca/trade-agreements-accords-commerciaux/agr-acc/nafta-alena/index.aspx In January 1994, Canada, the United States and Mexico launched the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and formed the world's largest free trade area. The Agreement has brought economic growth and rising standards of living for people in all three countries. In addition, NAFTA has established a strong foundation for future growth and has set a valuable example of the benefits of trade liberalization. quote Yup, good thing too, at least with third world (actually mostly 2nd world) countries Canada can get FAIR TRADE into the deal, unlike the one MORONey did with the U.S. of A., which is what Canada needs to do... Mulroney/Chretien/Martin/Harper. ITs all the same. And these deals are not good for Canada, but you are a good LibraCon. Abolish the senate and replace it with what? Abolishment does not require replacement.Plus very stupid, but essentially Correct... Check your facts again... Actual numbers tell quite a different story... One could even call the Liberals "the ordinary People's Party" ... Now this is getting very silly. The Liberals are not the "ordinary peoples party". The annointed one, Mr. Ignatieff was not even supported by the local riding association. The Annointed one never became leader through an election either. This is top down stuff. Not that its wrong or right, its just that the Liberal party has little in common with "ordinary People" when it comes to the party and its practices. I feel for you. But its ok to dream. Quote
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