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If it's about oil revenues, then broker a new deal with the south getting, say, 70% of the oil profits (but having 80% of the oil) instead of the 50% it now gets. The north avoids losing all that extra oil profit, the south gets more oil money, and both avoid a bloody war.

The big losers would be the outsiders looking for oil and ideological victories.

Let's get this clear...crystal clear-99% of Sudan's oil is going to China. Since all the oil is in the South the Northern Muslim Sudanese government will continue to wipe out the Southern coal black Christians. There is China, the puppet Muslim government China props in Sudan, and the oil of South Sudan China is 100% dependent on. China is not about to make any new deals with any new nation. It spent years creating the puppet colony it has now. Its not about to start all over again.

China views Sudan as its exclusive oilcolony.

China and Russia and the Arab League of Nations have all made it clear they will continue to support the current Sudan regime no matter what happens internally to southern Sudanese people. So has the Organization of African states.

There will be no war. There will simply be another round of genocide when the referendum is rejected or fixed.

The world will do nothing as it has done over the last 20 years. The cold hard reality is that if these people in the South of Sudan were white, and being wiped out-the world would do something. Given the fact they are black and not even brown like their Muslim brothers to the North no one gives a damn.

True there are some Christian organizations trying to save Southern Sudanese but they are limited in what they can do and Israel has no space to take in any more Sudanese and Egypt can't afford to take in any mroe Sudanese refugees

either and no one in the first world wants any Sudanese.

Let's also spell this out loud and clear-in the Arab League of nations there has always been an inherent racism based on skin colour-the darker you are the more inferior you are seen as and if you are not a Muslim as the

Southerners are, you are in addition to being inferior because of your dark skin and therefore at best seen as a labourer, nothing more then khalif, infidel, expendable dhimmi call it what you want but you are worth nothing-your are an inferior human.

The trendy leftist supporters of Sharia law nations like Sudan could care less about their racist beliefs deeply entrenched in their Sharia law systems.

The trendy leftists selective concerns are only for Israel. One only uses the word racist when it comes to Israel. Any country you see in the third world is without fault. If there are problems its because of the US and/or Israel.

If genocide continues in Sudan the same trendy leftists who are quick to come on this board and pee pee cluck cluck about the US and Israel will say NOTHING about China or Sudan or the role of the Arab League of nations in condoning Sudan's policies.

The UN will only be too glad to support Sudan. After all the majority of its nations are human rights violators of the worst kind.

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No, it's idiots like you that wind up surrendering the benefits of civilization to destruction by barbarians.

How so?

We've been beating Al-Qaeda into the ground. They've gone from pulling off 9/11 to being reduced to sending printer-bombs through UPS that get intercepted. Estimates are there are less than a 100 full-fledged Al-Qaeda operatives left in the world. Seems like we're doing a good job against Islamist terrorists.

Generally I don't start cowering in fear from "threats" until they are more likely to kill me than a lightning strike.

You need to man-up and get a pair.

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Good news, looks like the north has come to it's senses and is going to back the referendum results:

Link

Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir visited Juba Tuesday and said his government would respect the results.

He says at this moment of self-determination we want the process to be peaceful, transparent and free. And whether the results bring unity or secession the people should accept it in good spirit.

Looks like there's no war on the horizon.

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All war is the absense of human intelligence - when like fire ants- damned insects we lower ourselves to the filthy level of insects..consuming each other..and in the end - no one benefits other than stupid people who embraced evil and symbolically cannibalized their fellow humans for no valid reason other than adventurism and profit...all the while duping young men into dieing for a cause that is nothing but a dellusional ruse.

  • 2 weeks later...
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The South won the referendum. The country didn't dissolve into civil war. It's a good thing.

  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

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I will say it again and need to clarify it. First off technically Darfur is not in the south its to the West. I think what ever happens to the geographic North and South regions of Sudan, the black Christians mostly in Darfur but also in Southern Sudan will continue to suffer and be victims of a civil war. I t hink their trials and tribulations will continue.

I also think the notion that the South and North will live in peaceful co-existence is wishful thinking and soon explode. I hope I am wrong.

My pessimism is based on the fact I don't think whatever happens the people starving in Darfur will see one penny of the oil revenue help them and I believe the average shmo in the South and for that matter the North will remain as they are now while only a few sob corupt politicians will pocket all the oil revenue and China will continue to get 99% of it.

I sound just like Oleg Bach!

  • 3 weeks later...
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Still waiting for war to begin, after the South voted over 95% for independence.

  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

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