maplesyrup Posted June 11, 2004 Report Posted June 11, 2004 This is a really good move on behalf of the New Democrats, and a great way for a lot of Canadians to learn about, and appreciate, Jack Layton's trilingualism. If anyone sees any of Jack and Olivia's ads, please let us know. I presume these Cantonese ads are going to be shown on the multicultural channels. Gotta love it! Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
Argus Posted June 12, 2004 Report Posted June 12, 2004 This is a really good move on behalf of the New Democrats, and a great way for a lot of Canadians to learn about, and appreciate, Jack Layton's trilingualism. If anyone sees any of Jack and Olivia's ads, please let us know. I presume these Cantonese ads are going to be shown on the multicultural channels. Gotta love it! Your kind of Canada is a Canada where immigrants can come here and learn nothing about Canada, can stay in their own Chinese communities, read Chinese language papers and magazines, watch Chinese language TV, listen to Chinese language radio, work in Chinese businesses which cater to Chinese customers. And call themselves Canadians. And have political weasels make promises to them which are in their interests but not in the interest of the country as a whole. Lovely. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
BigGunner Posted June 12, 2004 Report Posted June 12, 2004 This is a really good move on behalf of the New Democrats, and a great way for a lot of Canadians to learn about, and appreciate, Jack Layton's trilingualism. If anyone sees any of Jack and Olivia's ads, please let us know. I presume these Cantonese ads are going to be shown on the multicultural channels. Gotta love it! Your kind of Canada is a Canada where immigrants can come here and learn nothing about Canada, can stay in their own Chinese communities, read Chinese language papers and magazines, watch Chinese language TV, listen to Chinese language radio, work in Chinese businesses which cater to Chinese customers. And call themselves Canadians. And have political weasels make promises to them which are in their interests but not in the interest of the country as a whole. Lovely. Do these Chinese pay taxes here? YES Do they obey the laws here? YES Are they not citizens? YES THEY ARE Then why would you care if a large ethnic minority congregate in an area and do the best to make themselves happy? Would you be happy if they scattered themselves across the country and lost all cultural links to their ancestors? Prefer to see them wipe out their language? This is not America... Last time I checked, this is a free country. I really hope your comments were not intended to appear as the racist tripe that it looks like....that kind of thinking is un-Canadian. Quote
Bionic Antboy Posted June 12, 2004 Report Posted June 12, 2004 This is a really good move on behalf of the New Democrats, and a great way for a lot of Canadians to learn about, and appreciate, Jack Layton's trilingualism. If anyone sees any of Jack and Olivia's ads, please let us know. I presume these Cantonese ads are going to be shown on the multicultural channels. Gotta love it! Your kind of Canada is a Canada where immigrants can come here and learn nothing about Canada, can stay in their own Chinese communities, read Chinese language papers and magazines, watch Chinese language TV, listen to Chinese language radio, work in Chinese businesses which cater to Chinese customers. And call themselves Canadians. And have political weasels make promises to them which are in their interests but not in the interest of the country as a whole. Lovely. I'd consider them more Canadian than someone who holds such xenophobic attitudes. As for saying this....work in Chinese businesses which cater to Chinese customers As an Anglo in downtown Toronto, I've NEVER been refused service in any Chinese establishment, be it a restaurant (that serves REAL Chinese food), clothing store, fresh food grocer or whatever. Sounds like you have some issues. I agree with maplesyrup that it's great that at least one party is making the effort to get their message heard more clearly by more Canadians. I doubt we'll see the Conservative party doing that. Quote
Argus Posted June 12, 2004 Report Posted June 12, 2004 Your kind of Canada is a Canada where immigrants can come here and learn nothing about Canada, can stay in their own Chinese communities, read Chinese language papers and magazines, watch Chinese language TV, listen to Chinese language radio, work in Chinese businesses which cater to Chinese customers.Lovely. Do these Chinese pay taxes here? YES Do they obey the laws here? YES Are they not citizens? YES THEY ARE Then why would you care if a large ethnic minority congregate in an area and do the best to make themselves happy? If they have no interest in being Canadian than I have no interest in having them here. How many millions of "foreign" Canadians do you want here? Will you be happy when BC seperates from Canada because the great majority of the citizens there have no interest in the rest of us, more in common with China, and can't even speak our language? Oh, that can't happen? Why not? It has everywhere else on the planet throughout history.Would you be happy if they scattered themselves across the country and lost all cultural links to their ancestors? Prefer to see them wipe out their language?You mean become Canadians? Yes. Very much so. Or don't you give a damn what happens to this country and its culture and traditions?This is not America...Last time I checked, this is a free country. Last time I checked there was more freedom in the US. More importantly, there was far more unity, far more pride to be American among immigrants who are eager to fit in and take part in the American experience.I really hope your comments were not intended to appear as the racist tripe that it looks like....that kind of thinking is un-Canadian.What exactly is Canadian thinking, hmm? Does it arise from some kind of shared sense of cultural values and traditions? But you seem happy to have millions of people who share none of that with you, and can't even speak your language. How do you know your thinking is the same as their thinking? Oh, that doesn't matter, right? And yet, I can't utter thoughts you consider "un-Canadian" because uh... help me out here. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
BigGunner Posted June 12, 2004 Report Posted June 12, 2004 Your kind of Canada is a Canada where immigrants can come here and learn nothing about Canada, can stay in their own Chinese communities, read Chinese language papers and magazines, watch Chinese language TV, listen to Chinese language radio, work in Chinese businesses which cater to Chinese customers.Lovely. Do these Chinese pay taxes here? YES Do they obey the laws here? YES Are they not citizens? YES THEY ARE Then why would you care if a large ethnic minority congregate in an area and do the best to make themselves happy? If they have no interest in being Canadian than I have no interest in having them here. How many millions of "foreign" Canadians do you want here? Will you be happy when BC seperates from Canada because the great majority of the citizens there have no interest in the rest of us, more in common with China, and can't even speak our language? Oh, that can't happen? Why not? It has everywhere else on the planet throughout history.Would you be happy if they scattered themselves across the country and lost all cultural links to their ancestors? Prefer to see them wipe out their language?You mean become Canadians? Yes. Very much so. Or don't you give a damn what happens to this country and its culture and traditions?This is not America...Last time I checked, this is a free country. Last time I checked there was more freedom in the US. More importantly, there was far more unity, far more pride to be American among immigrants who are eager to fit in and take part in the American experience.I really hope your comments were not intended to appear as the racist tripe that it looks like....that kind of thinking is un-Canadian.What exactly is Canadian thinking, hmm? Does it arise from some kind of shared sense of cultural values and traditions? But you seem happy to have millions of people who share none of that with you, and can't even speak your language. How do you know your thinking is the same as their thinking? Oh, that doesn't matter, right? And yet, I can't utter thoughts you consider "un-Canadian" because uh... help me out here. First of all, I live in BC. If we ever separate from the rest of Canada, its because of the arrogance, corruption, and abusive bahaviour that the federal government treats my home province with. When talking about immirgrants, remember one thing...we are all immirgrants at one time or another. My ethnic heritage comes from northern Europe/Scandinavia, and it came over almost 200 years ago. Today, other peoples are coming over from other parts of the world that also speak a different language and often have a different skin colour. Why the hell would you exclude a non-white immirgrant from enjoying a new home and live in freedom? Freedom, democracy, peace are not exclusive to white-skinned former European linked Canadians. I was wrong though... Your comments were indeed racist tripe. But you are free to express that trash. Thousands of Canadian war heroes died to protect your freedoms too...as distasteful as your views are. Quote
maplesyrup Posted June 12, 2004 Author Report Posted June 12, 2004 Apparently this constructive marketing approach with some of the New Democrats ads are going to have Jack & Olivia speaking in both Cantonese and Mandarin. Watch for either the Conservatives or the Liberals, or both, to copy this fabulous New Democrat strategy Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
Bionic Antboy Posted June 12, 2004 Report Posted June 12, 2004 This is not America...Last time I checked, this is a free country. Last time I checked there was more freedom in the US. More importantly, there was far more unity, far more pride to be American among immigrants who are eager to fit in and take part in the American experience.I really hope your comments were not intended to appear as the racist tripe that it looks like....that kind of thinking is un-Canadian.What exactly is Canadian thinking, hmm? Does it arise from some kind of shared sense of cultural values and traditions? But you seem happy to have millions of people who share none of that with you, and can't even speak your language. How do you know your thinking is the same as their thinking? Oh, that doesn't matter, right? And yet, I can't utter thoughts you consider "un-Canadian" because uh... help me out here. Obviously, you're not paying attention to the news. Right now, the political climate in the US is probably more polarized than it has been since the Civil War. As for immigrants in Canada, I know quite a few, from China, Egypt, and Trinidad, and although they all have close ties to their ancestral heritage, they are all proud to be Canadian, and all take part in the Canadian "experience". As for what is "Canadian thinking", I would hope includes not spouting off xenophobic racist comments. In regards to not being able to say them, well, you have, and no one has censored your words. Quote
maplesyrup Posted June 12, 2004 Author Report Posted June 12, 2004 I think Olivia was born in Hong Kong! Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
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