Canadian's Support 2 Tier Healthcare

[takeanumber]

Bad health is a lottery. It could happen to anyone of us. How to share this risk? State health insurance is an obvious way to equally share this risk.

Now, how to organize this? Good question. How to ensure the dishonest don't take advantage?

Superior point.

Insurance is a great way to spread risk, while ensuring equality, and even to rationalize the cost by introducing a few markets.

If there's a way to introduce markets on the supply side, whithout price discriminating amongst the demand side, and thereby insuring equality of care, then I'm all for it.

The problem with the logic "I should be able to get better care than you because I'm willing and able to pay for it, AND, I don't want to pay taxes into the public sector because I'M already paying for my care" smacks of inequality and selfishness.

So sure, let's rationalize the supply side. Leave the Demand side (where our greatest values lie) alone.

[idealisttotheend]

bump -- communist health care? We already had this debate Argus, while I respect you skills as a debater I think you lost this one.

[caesar]

I just think its so unfair that I have to fly or drive to the United States to have a surgical operation or to see a specialist. When I should be able to do that in this country at my own cost "

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It would be unfair if the rich were the only ones able to see the doctors and specialist and get the MRIs or surgery.

We have the right to demand services at this time. Health Care is NOT free now; we are paying for it; it should be delivered in a timely fashion.

If private clinics open the doctors will come from the public system slowing down that system even more.

I don't buy the provincial governments whining for more unfettered cash for the health care system. To some extent they are using patients to pry more money from the federal government. If the provinces cannot provide timely Health Care; they should turn it over to the federal governments. That is where a national health care system belongs.

[Guest eureka]

That is not the way the world works. The "civilized" world has gone through many revolutions to ensure that it does not. Would you push us to another?

Healthcare has sweet nothing to do with Freedoms. It is about rights, though.There, all have the right to equal health care: that is a natural result of being human. There is no argument that can favour preferential treatment for lifestyle reasons. When made, they can be reduced to absurdity with the absurd having as mech weight as the false lifestyle reasoning.

There will have to a much better of what two tier means since we di already have an element of private practise. However, that does not necessarily mean that the system is a two tiered one. What matters is what part is provate and how it functions within the system and not separate from the system.

That said, privatized medicine everywhere has been shown to be more expensive, more dangerous to your health than public. In the States, private hospitals have a higher death rate than public in Canada; shorter treatment periods (fast medicine like their obsession with fast food and equally harmful); and poorer standards of care. Then, we all know of the forty odd million of Americans who are denied their fundamental right to healthcare and who receive what amounts to charitable treatment only as a last resort. Their outcomes as well as care are even worse.

Profit before people.