Atheism is DEAD!

[cybercoma]

toadbrother: for your own safety, I suggest you take a HIKE

thanks...

Is that a threat?

[whowhere]

now listen to this arrogant puffed up son of a bitch....

little scientist geek who would try to usurp God Himself!!!

Atheist:

have you for but a moment considered that you have adopted a position against 98% of the human race, both past and present?

do you think you are RIGHT and they are all WRONG?

WRONG

the atheist sins not only against God, but also against man...

Let God speak for God. If God is not speaking, then man is left to do what he thinks is right. This exertion of right is extended by the hand of society. The world is getting over the christian presumption where the christian doctrine took advantage of this God not speaking to man and twisted around the OT stories. The OT God not speaking to man overtly has morphed via christianity into people developing voices in their heads and believing jesus is in their heads guiding them. In the Current dynamic of the world, atheism is a valid position.

[whowhere]

The Atheist problem what could it be? We make up a unproptionally tiny part of prison populations? doesn't seem like a problem. Most of the intellectuals are atheists? Also not a problem. We make more money? definately not a problem. Higher IQ, lower illiteracy rates, lower divorce rates, lower teen pregency, lower abortion rates, lower STI rates. None of those seem like bad things. So what exactly is the atheist problem? That atheists on average lead better lives?

Atheists are often of low character and untrustworthy. Although a valid postion it is not an excuse to be a bad person.

[Guest TrueMetis]

Atheists are often of low character and untrustworthy. Although a valid postion it is not an excuse to be a bad person.

I can site a source for every single point I made. Can you site a source for you bullshit piece of opinion? It would seem to me that lower divorce, teen pregency and abortion rates all show high character. As for untrustworthy well you seem like the kind of person who distrusts people just because they're intelluctuals so I guess it makes sense coming from you.

Edited January 11, 2010 by TrueMetis

[cybercoma]

Atheists are often of low character and untrustworthy. Although a valid postion it is not an excuse to be a bad person.

This is seriously ridiculous. This is right up there with saying Jews screw people out of their money and Muslims beat their wives. Your bigotry is disgusting.

[Oleg Bach]

HOW DOES THE REAL WORLD WORK? Tell me first where the real world is and where the unreal ones are situated. You know that originally the ancient doctrine was based on "I am the TRUTH and the light and the way." Now what do you think the base meaning for TRUTH is? I would say that it means the brave embracing of REALITY. Now how many of you out there are connected to what is absolutely real in the world that we created, that is for the most part deceptive and buisness, corporately speaking is the high art of lieing. How many of you out there are capable of forfeiture of income by standing up and saying something is a lie? I REST MY CASE YOUR HONOUR.

[ToadBrother]

toadbrother: for your own safety, I suggest you take a HIKE

thanks...

Screw you, pal. You don't scare me, or anyone. That you're a few slices short of a baloney sandwich there can be no doubt, but don't you ever imagine for the tiniest second in your twisted, diseased brain that I'm scared of you, or that you ever could actually threaten anyone.

[ToadBrother]

Atheists are often of low character and untrustworthy. Although a valid postion it is not an excuse to be a bad person.

Care to back that up?

[whowhere]

I can site a source for every single point I made. Can you site a source for you bullshit piece of opinion? It would seem to me that lower divorce, teen pregency and abortion rates all show high character. As for untrustworthy well you seem like the kind of person who distrusts people just because they're intelluctuals so I guess it makes sense coming from you.

ROFL, you an intellectual?? ha ha ha. A simpleton, yes, an intellectual no. Because you have no experience with a God or an experience considered godly you dismiss it as fantasy. The world is rooted in theology. Not only has theology and philospy been around for thousands of years, math has been in use by the Greeks since 600 BC. Being intellectual is to be empathetic. You have to understand where the other is coming from. I attack anything and everything. I also look at what is. If you were an intellectual you would have to entertain the possibility there is more advanced life out their. You are blinded by your emotions that is what is revealing in your posts. As for your stats on divorce, pregnancy, abortation, yeah sure.

[whowhere]

Care to back that up?

Personal experience. I wouldn't lend them any money and I wouldn't trust them around any wife or girlfriend.

[whowhere]

This is seriously ridiculous. This is right up there with saying Jews screw people out of their money and Muslims beat their wives. Your bigotry is disgusting.

Because they lack belief in higher intelligence or a God they platform themselves as Gods. Because of their God status they feel entitled to exploit, cheat, lie, without fear of retribution.

[Guest TrueMetis]

As for your stats on divorce, pregnancy, abortation, yeah sure.

My link

In general, higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy and abortion in the prosperous democracies

The study itself

My link

Your pathetic.

Because they lack belief in higher intelligence or a God they platform themselves as Gods. Because of their God status they feel entitled to exploit, cheat, lie, without fear of retribution.

The only reason theists won't admit they lie about God is so they won't be accountable to society. (see it works both ways)

Edited January 11, 2010 by TrueMetis

[jbg]

now listen to this arrogant puffed up son of a bitch....

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the atheist sins not only against God, but also against man...

This is my more moderate view on this issue.

[jbg]

abortation???

Is that some new social pathology? A religion? Don't know that word.

[whowhere]

Your pathetic.

Once again you prove yourself to be an emotional simpleton.

The only reason theists won't admit they lie about God is so they won't be accountable to society. (see it works both ways)

I didn't say atheists lie about God, I say they have no problem lying and cheating in general. Who is society? We are and the history that brought us here. Being accountable to society is to be held to accountable to the rule of law. Be atheist, makes no difference to me. I would rather have an atheist society than this multi religious garbage the Conservatives and liberals have inflicted on Canada over the last 30 to 40 years. Actually, I see Religion as a sign of Corrupt societies. Religion only appears when a country and a society has become corrupt and the only sane outlet for solace is to look to a God for hope to

Memorable quotes for

Taxi Driver (1976)

Personnel Officer: How's your driving record? Clean?

Travis Bickle: It's clean, real clean. Like my conscience.

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Travis Bickle: All the animals come out at night - whores, skunk pussies, buggers, queens, fairies, dopers, junkies, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets. I go all over. I take people to the Bronx, Brooklyn, I take 'em to Harlem. I don't care. Don't make no difference to me. It does to some. Some won't even take spooks. Don't make no difference to me.

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Travis Bickle: Loneliness has followed me my whole life. Everywhere. In bars, in cars, sidewalks, stores, everywhere. There's no escape. I'm God's lonely man... June 8th. My life has taken another turn again. The days can go on with regularity over and over, one day indistinguishable from the next. A long continuous chain. Then suddenly, there is a change.

Religion is a sign of failed countries. Happy people have no need for religion. Hard to be happy when you have corrupt politicians, bureacrats, and lyers wrecking the country with their BS.

Over in the UK, the get 28 days stats and vacation days a year. France, Germany, sweden, they get 6 weeks vacation and they have public health care and other programs. The problem with North America, its full of scum, and A god is necessary to throw the trash into the fire to be obliterated out of the book of existence.

The bible will endure on in North America.

[whowhere]

Is that some new social pathology? A religion? Don't know that word.

Abortion, don't be lazy, read the original quoted posts and you would have the answer. Yes I should proof my posts but who's grading me? Science has shown the brain looks for patterns, and the first and last letters are what triggers the word association.

[whowhere]

This is my more moderate view on this issue.

http://www.gottorah.com/forum/category-view.asp

You should lament on a jewish forum. With the likes of falsemetis and toadsister you are not likely to get any warm and friendly discourse on your post.

[Guest TrueMetis]

Once again you prove yourself to be an emotional simpleton.

Someone mad because their preconceived bullshit was proven wrong?

I didn't say atheists lie about God, I say they have no problem lying and cheating in general.

Which is a completely unfounded statement you are unable to backup.

As for the rest of your post I pity you when all you can do is bitch when you live in one of the greatest conntries in the world.

[cybercoma]

Because they lack belief in higher intelligence or a God they platform themselves as Gods. Because of their God status they feel entitled to exploit, cheat, lie, without fear of retribution.

Are you kidding me? Being religious forces people to lie about their lives, so they are not ostracized by their communities. Furthermore, some of the most horrifying atrocities known to humanity have been committed because people believed their atrocious behaviour was for the glory of their god(s). As Steven Weinberg said, "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you’d have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion." Face it, pal. There are good and bad people on this planet regardless of whether they're religious or not. A fairly sound argument can be made that religion actually turns humanity away from each other and focuses their sights on otherworldly rewards. Removing the focus from one another creates the environment where people can do terrible things to each other and justify it with mythical nonsense.

[whowhere]

Someone mad because their preconceived bullshit was proven wrong?

You have proven yourself wrong when you insist your view is the only view. You are free to see things anyway you want, right or wrong. Intelligent people recognize their fallacies, you being a simpleton are challenged in that area.

Which is a completely unfounded statement you are unable to backup.

As is your statement, Atheist are more honest, trustworthy and upstanding people. Right...

As for the rest of your post I pity you when all you can do is bitch when you live in one of the greatest conntries in the world.

There is nothing wrong with people on one country getting what other countries are getting. Canada wants to claim to be G8 Country, they should provide like other G8 countries. When it comes to what Canadians get in comparison to other G8 countries, Canadians are at the bottom.

[whowhere]

Are you kidding me? Being religious forces people to lie about their lives, so they are not ostracized by their communities. Furthermore, some of the most horrifying atrocities known to humanity have been committed because people believed their atrocious behaviour was for the glory of their god(s). As Steven Weinberg said, "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you’d have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion." Face it, pal. There are good and bad people on this planet regardless of whether they're religious or not. A fairly sound argument can be made that religion actually turns humanity away from each other and focuses their sights on otherworldly rewards. Removing the focus from one another creates the environment where people can do terrible things to each other and justify it with mythical nonsense.

Yes Christians are guilty of not focusing on the life in front of them and they should be sent to meet jesus ASAP for their disinterest in life.

[cybercoma]

You have proven yourself wrong when you insist your view is the only view.

I'd like to say the same thing to you, but you prove yourself wrong when your view is hate-filled bigotry and indefensible.

[Guest TrueMetis]

You have proven yourself wrong when you insist your view is the only view. You are free to see things anyway you want, right or wrong. Intelligent people recognize their fallacies, you being a simpleton are challenged in that area.

I never said that stop putting words in my mouth.

As is your statement, Atheist are more honest, trustworthy and upstanding people. Right...

Never made that statement either, though atheists are richer, commit less crimes, and make up a larger propotion of scientists. So I suppose that that argument could be made.

There is nothing wrong with people on one country getting what other countries are getting. Canada wants to claim to be G8 Country, they should provide like other G8 countries. When it comes to what Canadians get in comparison to other G8 countries, Canadians are at the bottom.

Then why are we number 3 on the HDI? Could it be that the things you bitch about are completely unimportant?

[jbg]

http://www.gottorah.com/forum/category-view.asp

You should lament on a jewish forum. With the likes of falsemetis and toadsister you are not likely to get any warm and friendly discourse on your post.

Actually, I have no problem with either. You, on the other hand....

[GostHacked]

Cheaters and liars are abound in society. They wear all sorts of flags, like Canadian, American, British, ect ect ect. They all subscribe to different religions, Christianity, Catholicism, Judaism, Islam. ect ect. They all come in different colours, red, white, black, yellow.

And you will find liars among all groups. I will say that I think Atheists have stopped lying to themselves.

I also find the notion of atheists lying to people more than religious people is quite laughable. When people of a church question their god, who speaks for this god? A man does. A man is fallible, that man if he has not the right answer will lie or ramble off some bible quote to satisfy and appease the crowd. Because really the stance is 'I don't know what god has in mind of us.'

I'll go the other route and say most people who are preachers/priests, ect ect, essentially those in the church speaking for god, are liars themselves. They really don't have much to worth with besides an ancient text that has been modified through the ages. They are not intentional liars, like most religious folk mean well, although somewhat misguided I'd say.