Insanity at the Canadian border.

[Smallc]

And obviously the judge made the wrong decision

I don't know who you are to judge that though. You think that the judge made the wrong decision. Based on your estimation, they made the wrong decision. You don't know whether or not you're right.

[Gabriel]

I don't agree with you, so obviously I'm not thinking. Typical right wing black and white thinking. I think this man is very suspect, but I'm not about to say I know more about the case and the circumstances than the presiding judge.

And I really don't care what he's blaming. He committed a crime and he will go to court as a result. He will be watched as the authorities feel is necessary.

I don't know all the circumstances and neither do you. Perhaps you shouldn't rush to judgment so fast. What ever happened to innocence until proof of guilt.

Yes, and perhaps I should adhere to that principle in the case of the Fort Hood massacre. Basically what you're telling me to do is to turn my brain off and not use common sense. Let's put the "innocent until proven guilty" blinders on and ignore the massive red flags of this case. I never said he was guilty of anything, anyways. What I *DID* say was that the circumstances surrounding this case cannot justify his release on bail. You don't gamble with national security. Anyways, I cannot continue this exchange with you. This isn't a complicated issue - he shouldn't be free to run around in Canada. The judge released him for unknown reasons (perhaps the judge is an ultra-leftist?) and compromised Canadian national security as a result. This isn't debatable.

[Smallc]

Yes, and perhaps I should adhere to that principle in the case of the Fort Hood massacre. Basically what you're telling me to do is to turn my brain off and not use common sense.

That's your first problem, there's no such thing. There is only common experience.

Let's put the "innocent until proven guilty" blinders on and ignore the massive red flags of this case.

Do you think that the adjudicator ignored them? How can you know?

I never said he was guilty of anything, anyways. What I *DID* say was that the circumstances surrounding this case cannot justify his release on bail.

That's only an opinion on your part. The adjudicator obviously disagreed with you.

You don't gamble with national security.

Anyways, I cannot continue this exchange with you. This isn't a complicated issue - he shouldn't be free to run around in Canada. The judge released him for unknown reasons (perhaps the judge is an ultra-leftist?) and compromised Canadian national security as a result. This isn't debatable.

It isn't debatable, because you're presenting assumptions and opinions as fact. How you or I feel on the issue is irrelevant.

[politicslvr]

This man needs to be be arrested, thoroughly investigated, and most likely deported. What is wrong with this country?

This is just another of the many examples illustrating why Canada is a breeding ground for terrorists. Canada literally goes out of its way to make it easy for these people to come to our country via horribly weak immigration laws and border control. What a joke.

[Keepitsimple]

So what should we do with him then? Should we ignore our own laws and our own Constitution just because you or I may thing he's a bad man (I haven't decided yet)?

Putting this fellow aside, I've wrestled with the same question for a long time. Lets also put refugees aside for the time being. There are only so many "openings" for immigrants - we have our annual quota. If an immigrant commits a crime, common sense says that they are not the type of potential citizen that we are looking for. But the sad part is that there is a law-abiding immigrant on the waiting list who cannot get in because a criminal has taken up a spot. I'm sure that at least 9 out of 10 Canadians have never been charged with a crime (I don't have a cite). Just like taking a new job, immigrants are on probation until they become citizens and it's during this period that they should be on their best behaviour and show the best of their character. Our new Citizenship booklet has added focus to the fact that Citizens (and immigrants who strive to become one) have rights and responsibilities. Is it really too much to ask not to be convicted of a crime? I'm sorry, but in most cases they should make a speedy exit and welcome the next person on the list.

[Shwa]

"...so many folks in here of the right opinion on this issue."

The "right opinion." That is so funny! Thank you!

But seriously folks... {with apologies to our fine Border Services personnel who made our trip across the border on Saturday very pleasant.}

So this guy comes across the border with some suspicious behavior that red flags him. I would let him in. Long enough to put the tabs on him, investigate his circumstances, trace his bank accounts, maybe tap his line a couple of times. He might be a great source of information and the last thing you want to do is get rid of a dupe that can actually help you in the covert world of counter terrorism?

Right?

Naw. He seems suspicious. He might be plotting something. Get rid of him because I'm scare.

Sheesh.