After Iggnatieff

[Smallc]

Direct result of the failed Coalition.

No, he was set to leave before any coalition talk.

[fellowtraveller]

No, he was set to leave before any coalition talk.

No, the guy who was set to leave before any coalition talks was Duceppe.

He must have though Xmas was early when Jack and Stephane offered him the keys to the kingdom.

Win or lose, I reckon Duceppe is gone soon after the next election.

[Alex Moore]

funny... not only am I in Ontario, but i was also in University during Rae's tenure, and i would support him in a nano second. Totally different man and circumstance.

... How? ... Did he reincarnate? Because anyone who reincarnates as Bob Rae clearly got the bitch end of karma.

maybe he's changed I've never met the man. His political score card however is as bad as it can get for someone and to still be in politics. You can vote for him but i really doubt the rest of Ontario would.

[punked]

The problem here is when Iggy loses and goes back down south and starts writing about how much he loves torture and how Canada is failing the world it is going to be linked to the Liberal party.

[Goat Boy©]

No, he was set to leave before any coalition talk.

And then gone within weeks.....he was set to leave mid 2009, not christmas.

[Smallc]

And then gone within weeks.....he was set to leave mid 2009, not christmas.

I realize that. My point is that he was never getting another kick at the can.

[Radsickle]

Ignatieff will be around for awhile yet. Canada needs him and those who berate him now will eventually see the light.

PS: If you're going to post a forum topic geared towards berating Iggy, at least spell his last name properly. Otherwise, it's just another juvenile jab like Harper's thugs calling him IgNOtieff.

Edited September 17, 2009 by Radsickle

[jdobbin]

Back to the thread Dobbs....I genuinely would like your opinion on the next Liberal leader - whether it's in 6 months of 2 or 3 years. Who do you think would be the serious challengers?

Hard to say. I didn't endorse anyone in the leadership campaign in 2006. I didn't even have a Liberal membership.

I really didn't know many of the candidates. I liked Kennedy and Hall-Findlay for their freshness. I thought from the beginning that Dion's stand on the Clarity Act would hurt him in Quebec even among Liberal supporters.

Of the past leadership candidates from last time, only Rae and Ignatieff stood up. My opinion then was that Rae would not be able to overcome his time as premier of Ontario. I think he has potential in most other positions that a Liberal government might offer but as leader, he would be a lightening rod.

So, who could take over following Ignatieff? Well, I don't think you can forget Leblanc. However, of all the past leadership candidates, I don't know if any of stood apart from the crowd. This may be a reflection of the media nowadays who only focus on the leaders. We don't see what a Kennedy or a Leblanc might be doing as much because they just don't make question period.

There are a few municipal and provincial politicians I have my eye on in various provinces.

I figure that some of the future leadership hopefuls are going to be newly recruited candidates. If Ignatieff can bring in a number of people like that as Pearson did, he will go a long way to party renewal.

[Alta4ever]

There are a few municipal and provincial politicians I have my eye on in various provinces.

Stelmach? He would fit in really well with the liberal party of Canada.

[Alex Moore]

Ignatieff will lose if he runs in an election, even he knows that full well right now. He'll probably just quit and go back to Harvard instead of lining up just to lose. Rae will probably replace him, but he won't fare any better. McKenna is probably their only legitimate shot in the near future.

McKenna is the only liberal that I would ever consider voting for as of right now. the problem is that the liberal party has effectively purged itself of any Chretien era liberals. also he has refused the position twice now

Rae is by far the most laughable liberal candidate unless Joe Volpe makes another run for it. By that I mean Rae would result in a shut out from ontario which would reduce the liberal considerably.

Kennedy: although I respect this guy. I think he is one of the few genuine politicians left. He has not really done anything since entering politics which makes me wonder if he'd go for it again.

Justin Trudeau: people seem to think he has this aura about him. Entirely because he is the son of Trudeau. Which by no means makes him a good politician (If politics where genetic lord help us lol).

Dion: ? I think this would play out like a scene from frankenstein

[jdobbin]

Stelmach? He would fit in really well with the liberal party of Canada.

Look, I know that you are prone to angry responses but please take credit for your own creation in Alberta.

[jdobbin]

McKenna is the only liberal that I would ever consider voting for as of right now. the problem is that the liberal party has effectively purged itself of any Chretien era liberals. also he has refused the position twice now

His French is a major impediment.

He might be as rusty as Turner was coming out of the business world.

[Keepitsimple]

Hard to say. I didn't endorse anyone in the leadership campaign in 2006. I didn't even have a Liberal membership.

I really didn't know many of the candidates. I liked Kennedy and Hall-Findlay for their freshness. I thought from the beginning that Dion's stand on the Clarity Act would hurt him in Quebec even among Liberal supporters.

Of the past leadership candidates from last time, only Rae and Ignatieff stood up. My opinion then was that Rae would not be able to overcome his time as premier of Ontario. I think he has potential in most other positions that a Liberal government might offer but as leader, he would be a lightening rod.

So, who could take over following Ignatieff? Well, I don't think you can forget Leblanc. However, of all the past leadership candidates, I don't know if any of stood apart from the crowd. This may be a reflection of the media nowadays who only focus on the leaders. We don't see what a Kennedy or a Leblanc might be doing as much because they just don't make question period.

There are a few municipal and provincial politicians I have my eye on in various provinces.

I figure that some of the future leadership hopefuls are going to be newly recruited candidates. If Ignatieff can bring in a number of people like that as Pearson did, he will go a long way to party renewal.

I agree with you. I quite liked Hall-findlay - she's a thoughtful speaker but too nice to be a PM. I find Kennedy to be very bright but a little too Left and a horrible blabbermouth - he really needs to work at that because he's got a lot of potential. He goes on and on and drowns other people out. With only two major parties, Canada needs two strong parties. It's healthy to have alternating governments every 8 or 10 years that drag the country a little right and then a little left - that ensures that generally speaking, we stay in the middle and both parties keep the "changes" that make pragmatic sense. Each party will have a platform that works for the times and each will run its course over time. That's why I believe the best thing for the Liberals in the long run is a Conservative majority. With that, they can get down to serious housecleaning, bringing in new blood and having a real leadership race.

[Molly]

I'd be in favor of a CPC majority if I thought it would be good for Canada, regardless of what it would do to or for the LPC. (but I don't.)

'Good for the LPC' could be interpreted as suggesting that a few years with CPC majority would result in voters resolving to never, never, never make the same horrible mistake again! Perhaps we agree on something.