jbg Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 Even at the moment of Canada's birth, the public excitement was minimal. It was time then, and remains time now, for you to realize what a great country you have. Got to get down to it. The Dominion of Canada (link to article, maybe)Inauguration of the Confederation - A General Holiday - Lord Monck Sworn In - Review of Troops This day has given birth to the political infant, the Dominion of Canada. At 12:5 (sic) o'clock last night its advent was hailed by a salute of 101 guns and a bonfire, also by the ringing of bells. The day dawned clearly and brightly on its nativity, and the capital was dressed with bunting to testify the public pleasure. The flags hung out were of course the British, with a very, very few French flags. It was evident that the celebration of the birth of the new state was to fall upon the shoulders of the authorities, the people generally taking a passive interest in it. There is a feeling of anxiety as to how the union will work, rather than confidence in it. ********** If you cannot read link, PM or e-mail me [email protected] for a PDF of the article. It is fascinating. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
WestViking Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 Many Canadians are still not sure that democracy is working. Quote Hall Monitor of the Shadowy Group
nicky10013 Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 Many Canadians are still not sure that democracy is working. Frankly, they're idiots who need a civics lesson. Quote
tango Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 (edited) I think there's a clue here: It would appear that forms of political organization in Canada which have been thought of as growing out of the political experience of her population have actually represented an effort to hold in check the kind of political developments which that experience engendered. Responsible government developed in reaction rather than in response to the true democratic spirit of the Canadian people. [26] The validity of this novel interpretation would depend directly on convincing proof that the rebellion had widespread support. Thus, Clark argues that the revolt was popular, but mismanaged: ... it was clear to perhaps all but the smugly righteous lieutenant governor that the province had only narrowly escaped a much more serious uprising. The battle north of Toronto was already under way before the vast majority of Upper Canadians had any hint that a rebellion was contemplated. With no immediate objects to attack local uprisings could not readily develop. Time was too short to muster in support of the larger rebel force. The result, in effect, was a running for cover on the part of many of those throughout the province who had most closely identified themselves with the reform cause." [27] 1837 was a major turning point in our history since it seems to have marked the end of ideological clash. The value systems of the Family Compact and the Mackenzie rebels could not be reconciled in the contemporary political context. One rather unnoticed outcome of the rebellion was that not only were the rebels defeated, the Compact did not survive. Canadians, after this episode, gave up extreme opinions, and in the 1840s R. B. Sullivan and W. H. Merritt, former Tories, could find common ground with Robert Baldwin, the Reformer. A broad stream of opinion, seeking the middle way, has dominated our political life ever since. Extreme opinion has found no home except for third party movements which have been relatively ineffectual. Perhaps, after all, the early whigs were right. The rebellion was a necessary step, but just so it was unsuccessful. The shock of revolt changed the course of constitutional development. Its failure allowed that development to take place within the British tradition. http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/transactions/3/rebellion1837.shtml The formation of the Dominion of Canada was (and is) a compromise ... a bone offered to quell rebellion, rather than arising from a popular revolution ... not too exciting ... and still the same today. In fact, Canada didn't believe in itself until Vimy Ridge, imo. And the most revolutionary thing we've done is ... universal health care. It ain't all bad! Edited September 3, 2009 by tango Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
Guest TrueMetis Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 In fact, Canada didn't believe in itself until Vimy Ridge, imo. And here a century after that it seems everyone has forgotten Vimy. Which is really depressing. Quote
tango Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 And here a century after that it seems everyone has forgotten Vimy. Which is really depressing. Not here. There's a commemoration every year - Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders. Only one vet left now, but he couldn't make it this year. I've seen the history short several times on tv this week. The French couldn't take it. The British couldn't take it. The Canucks took it! Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
tango Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 QUOTE (WestViking @ Sep 3 2009, 12:26 AM) *Many Canadians are still not sure that democracy is working. Frankly, they're idiots who need a civics lesson. We should always question. That's our democratic duty. Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
Guest TrueMetis Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 Not here. There's a commemoration every year - Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.Only one vet left now, but he couldn't make it this year. I've seen the history short several times on tv this week. The French couldn't take it. The British couldn't take it. The Canucks took it! Lucky you, around here people know the name but no one understands the importance of it. Quote
nicky10013 Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 We should always question. That's our democratic duty. The people running our democracy, absolutely. The democracy itself, however, is sound. Quote
jbg Posted September 4, 2009 Author Report Posted September 4, 2009 And here a century after that it seems everyone has forgotten Vimy. Which is really depressing. We in America haven't and we're still grateful. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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