What will Ignatieff do after the next Federal Election?

[Keepitsimple]

It is hard not to notice as an observer that the Tories seem a rather sour bunch about governing in a minority.

There are undercurrents within the Conservatives that are ready to move if Harper does not get a majority in the next election. That would be the pragmatic approach. To move beyond what they have to make improvements.

Where are these "undercurrents"? You're saying some people are plotting a coup if he doesn't get a majority? That's just silly. I think most of the rough edges in the Tory party have bought into "incremental Conservatism". That's how Harper operates - he knows Canadians don't have an appetite for paradigm shifts - either to the Left or the Right. Slow and steady - and if it takes three more minorities to get things working, so be it.

[jdobbin]

Where are these "undercurrents"? You're saying some people are plotting a coup if he doesn't get a majority? That's just silly. I think most of the rough edges in the Tory party have bought into "incremental Conservatism". That's how Harper operates - he knows Canadians don't have an appetite for paradigm shifts - either to the Left or the Right. Slow and steady - and if it takes three more minorities to get things working, so be it.

The undercurrents were there when it looked like Harper was about to lose office. We saw some Tories already positioning their chosen candidates for his replacement.

One more election is about all that will left for Harper. No majority and the talk of succession will be in the air.

[Alta4ever]

The undercurrents were there when it looked like Harper was about to lose office. We saw some Tories already positioning their chosen candidates for his replacement.

One more election is about all that will left for Harper. No majority and the talk of succession will be in the air.

No what we saw was media looking for a story any story. Career polticians are always looking to the next step, I am sure there are polticians within the liberal party building support for the day ignatieff leaves to go back to teaching at Harvard.

[jdobbin]

No what we saw was media looking for a story any story. Career polticians are always looking to the next step, I am sure there are polticians within the liberal party building support for the day ignatieff leaves to go back to teaching at Harvard.

Just as there are politicians looking at the future of the Conservatives when Harper goes to work for FOX.

[Cato]

Just as there are politicians looking at the future of the Conservatives when Harper goes to work for FOX.

Ignatieff had been teaching at Harvard. What is the basis for your claim?

[jdobbin]

Ignatieff had been teaching at Harvard. What is the basis for your claim?

Ignatieff had been teaching at U of T as well.

As far as what Harper would do, what do you think he is making appearances on FOX for? Those are auditions.

[Alta4ever]

Ignatieff had been teaching at U of T as well.

As far as what Harper would do, what do you think he is making appearances on FOX for? Those are auditions.

He was also on CNN how come nop accusation of him going to work for them.

[jdobbin]

He was also on CNN how come nop accusation of him going to work for them.

Because FOX has hired more conservative pundits and he has appeared more on that network.

[Alta4ever]

Because FOX has hired more conservative pundits and he has appeared more on that network.

Sure whatever.

[jdobbin]

Sure whatever.

And if he gets a job with FOX after his time in office, you will likely think it is brilliant, simply brilliant!

[Alta4ever]

And if he gets a job with FOX after his time in office, you will likely think it is brilliant, simply brilliant!

Why would fox hire a commentator that is not an expert in American politics, and I have yet to see them have any commentators who's primary focus is Canadian politics, Canadian economy, or hockey. Fox would not hire Harper as a commentator. Why is it you spread all talking points coming from the liberal strategists, and seem to believe them implicitly, what is your connection, or are you working for them?

[jdobbin]

Why would fox hire a commentator that is not an expert in American politics, and I have yet to see them have any commentators who's primary focus is Canadian politics, Canadian economy, or hockey. Fox would not hire Harper as a commentator. Why is it you spread all talking points coming from the liberal strategists, and seem to believe them implicitly, what is your connection, or are you working for them?

They have international commentators as well.

Are you talking points coming from Tory strategists?

[Alta4ever]

They have international commentators as well.

Are you talking points coming from Tory strategists?

Not a one, I have disagreed with the tories on many policies, and changed my prefered party more then once, no matter what you are pro liberal on all ideas and policy. i wonder what you think of economists deriding the liberal party for its stance on EI, will you admit it is wrong?

Ignatieff proposal risks boosting seasonal unemployment: Economists

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianp...bcKPAcNt4LkU0Kw

[jdobbin]

Not a one, I have disagreed with the tories on many policies, and changed my prefered party more then once, no matter what you are pro liberal on all ideas and policy. i wonder what you think of economists deriding the liberal party for its stance on EI, will you admit it is wrong?

The economists have already said they base some of their criticism on fears that the policy will be permanent. They admit they don't know for sure though/

Ignatieff proposal risks boosting seasonal unemployment: Economists

Whereas Harper's choice has people go on welfare. Take your pick.

[Jerry J. Fortin]

The economists have already said they base some of their criticism on fears that the policy will be permanent. They admit they don't know for sure though/

Whereas Harper's choice has people go on welfare. Take your pick.

How about neither! Why not get people to work for a living, as in if you want a government paycheck you may actually have to do something for it.

[punked]

How about neither! Why not get people to work for a living, as in if you want a government paycheck you may actually have to do something for it.

I remember the last person who accused the unemployed of being lazy as a PM. It was............R.B. Bennett, it was during the great depression which he made worse and Canadians hated him for it. The Liberals ruled for 20 years after that guy was done with the country.

[Keepitsimple]

One more election is about all that will left for Harper. No majority and the talk of succession will be in the air.

I'll keep telling you - it's just about impossible to get a majority the way things are right now. Harper himself will be quite satisfied to head a fairly strong minority government for the foreseeable future. He's only 50 years old - a very young man in politics. He loves his job and unlike the Liberals under Chretien and Martin, there is no division infecting the party due to various leadership aspirations.

[Keepitsimple]

They have international commentators as well.

Are you talking points coming from Tory strategists?

Dobbin, I'm starting to feel sorry for you - you're like a voice in the wilderness. All of your posts for the past several months are lacking in any substance at all.....and that's simply because as many threads are pointing out - the Liberals currently stand for nothing and their leader has not defined himself. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken feathers. So you're left with sniping at topics or trying to change the channel. But I always have to hand it to you - you're a loyal supporter and doggedly persistant.

[jdobbin]

I'll keep telling you - it's just about impossible to get a majority the way things are right now. Harper himself will be quite satisfied to head a fairly strong minority government for the foreseeable future. He's only 50 years old - a very young man in politics. He loves his job and unlike the Liberals under Chretien and Martin, there is no division infecting the party due to various leadership aspirations.

I don't doubt that a majority will be hard. However, if Tory seat counts go down, the issue of what the party needs to do to win a majority will come up. And that question invariably will be about leadership.

It isn't like it hasn't happened to Tories before. Or any party for that matter. If you suffer a setback in the election, you have to consider what changes to make.

[jdobbin]

Dobbin, I'm starting to feel sorry for you - you're like a voice in the wilderness. All of your posts for the past several months are lacking in any substance at all.....and that's simply because as many threads are pointing out - the Liberals currently stand for nothing and their leader has not defined himself. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken feathers. So you're left with sniping at topics or trying to change the channel. But I always have to hand it to you - you're a loyal supporter and doggedly persistant.

I feel sorry for the taxpayer to have to pay for consultants to get Harper speaking engagements on U.S. TV.

In terms of value, what has it achieved? Talk about a voice in the wilderness.

The Liberals just certified a leader in May and put together a platform at the end of June. I fully expect we will be seeing ideas in the fall... when people are paying attention.

Remember: this was the argument that the media and the Tories made was that electioneering in the summer was bad because no one would be paying attention.

[madmax]

The economists have already said ...........

Economists.....LOL....

Economists are pundits with graphs and opinions.

And when they are wrong... they make new graphs and change their opinions.

We are in the current state of affairs because of certain Idealogical Economic Doctrines moving to the forefront in Canadian and Global Politics.

The Economists also want a Carbon Tax... Nuff Said.

[madmax]

I remember the last person who accused the unemployed of being lazy as a PM. It was............R.B. Bennett,

You're old...

[punked]

You're old...

Not that old I just read alot.

[madmax]

I'll keep telling you - it's just about impossible to get a majority the way things are right now. Harper himself will be quite satisfied to head a fairly strong minority government for the foreseeable future. He's only 50 years old - a very young man in politics. He loves his job and unlike the Liberals under Chretien and Martin, there is no division infecting the party due to various leadership aspirations.

I tend to agree with this analysis.

[jdobbin]

Economists are pundits with graphs and opinions.

True. So we shouldn't listen to economists? Any economists?