Caledonia militia?

[Griz]

Didn't Tim Horton's restructure in a manner that they can be tax-exempt or something? What about the recent billion dollar bail-out to the forest industry? All those people in forest communities whine about indians--just like Borg--and when they themselves get the so-called hand-out, or, some outift gets tax-breaks--not a peep from your big yap

Fantino is a weak dick - otherwise this would have been solved long ago - it goes like this - when people believe they have no other alternative they will do what they believe they must do.

So the militia should get the same treatment the indians do - which means they can do anything they want - oops - that does not apply to white taxpayers

Borg

[charter.rights]

Didn't Tim Horton's restructure in a manner that they can be tax-exempt or something? What about the recent billion dollar bail-out to the forest industry? All those people in forest communities whine about indians--just like Borg--and when they themselves get the so-called hand-out, or, some outift gets tax-breaks--not a peep from your big yap

Never, mind that.

Rothmans and Imperial Tobacco made nearly $25 billion dollars by avoiding taxes when they were smuggling cigarettes across the border. They were convicted for their crime and fined $10 billion by the courts (no one served time for it). Then the Conservative government reduced the fines to $1.1 to be paid over the next 10 years.

With interests and investment return on the money they made, plus the sweet deal P.M. Harper gave them the tobacco companies made nearly $50 billion dollars.

Crime does pay.

[tango]

Excellent observations Griz and charter.rights:

Where are all the anti-native gripers when the corporate bailouts are being handed out!

Could it be ... that the anti-natives are just corporate lackeys, infesting the internet and promoting anti-native sentiments, to benefit the corporate bottom line?

Could be ... could also be that they are just:

Craving attention

Editorial

Dunnville Chronicle

So how much obligation does a newspaper have to provide coverage to someone who admittedly engages in acts simply to garner attention?

This is the question facing Haldimand newspapers in the wake of last week's dog and pony show in Cayuga.

In the days leading up to last Tuesday evening, Doug Fleming was asking people to come to a meeting where he would form a militia aimed at removing trespassers from properties in Caledonia. Specifically he wanted to target Six Nations residents who have been embroiled in land occupations in the area.

And then hours before the meeting Gary McHale distributed a press release saying, "At no time was Doug Fleming's new group going to be called 'Caledonia Militia'. It should be apparent to everyone that the word 'militia' was used to get media attention. It is unfortunate in Canada that media will not cover a story unless you use such a word..."

In no uncertain terms he was saying the whole thing was a publicity stunt.

McHale signed the release as media relations for the 'Caledonia Peacekeepers' , the new name of the Militia.

In light of the confession McHale and the group have lost even more credibility. All along they have claimed they are only trying restore balance to a situation in which they perceive two-tier justice.

Yes, newspapers will pay attention when someone comes along and uses a phrase like militia. One of its definitions is "military force."

In Canada the use of a private army is going to get you some attention. It sure doesn't mean you're going to get respect.

Surely recruitment conducted for a responsible group of citizens who want, and need to band together for the common good wouldn't need a publicity stunt to succeed.

So it appears the goal wasn't to actually form a peacekeeping gang but rather simply to provide an opportunity to step once again into the spotlight.

We also have to wonder if the roughly 125 protestors outside the meeting compared with the 30 or so inside gave McHale and Fleming a hint that maybe they're not quite as popular as they think they are.

We have a democratic system in place designed to represent us and to solve problems such as the myriad of land claims across the country. Indigenous peoples will be the first to tell you our system isn't perfect but they wouldn't be the only ones. Average Canadians are also frustrated at the lack of progress in this arena.

But McHale ran in the last federal election. It appeared at the time he understood that in a democracy you can be elected to carry out the wishes of your constituents. But apparently, if you're Gary McHale, losing just means you take matters into your own hands, democratic process be damned.

And no matter how you slice it, that makes him a vigilante -"One who advocates taking the law enforcement into one's own hands."

And yes in Canada that means getting media attention but in this case McHale is under a spotlight revealing -through his own admission -less than admirable motives.

There is no doubt that OPP have handled Six Nations residents differently than other citizens. They have little choice given directives from the Province in the wake of the Ipperwash inquiry.

But there is one question that has never been answered and until McHale or his disciples address it they will continue to be viewed as publicity seeking agitators by most citizens.

And the question is simple: Just how have your actions helped government negotiators reach a peaceful solution to land claims in Caledonia?

http://www.dunnvillechronicle.com/ArticleD....aspx?e=1636746

(emphases added)

Once again, the Dunnville Chronicle lends its intelligent voice to the discussion.

Well said!

However, I would just add ... imo, McHale seeks attention to impress his neo-nazi and white supremacist followers, to increase his standing in that community. He also is incorporating a militia, part of the 'plan' to infest Ontario with such views, no doubt.

Note: News report about this meeting and protest here:

http://www.dunnvillechronicle.com/ArticleD....aspx?e=1626658

Edited July 1, 2009 by tango

[Mr. Whiteman Esq.]

Where are all the anti-native gripers when the corporate bailouts are being handed out!

It's really just a matter of you not paying attention or not hearing what you don't want to hear.

[tango]

It's really just a matter of you not paying attention or not hearing what you don't want to hear.

Do you ever say anything intelligent?

Waiting ... waiting ...

[charter.rights]

It's really just a matter of you not paying attention or not hearing what you don't want to hear.

Geez... I didn't think you knew "tango" on a personal level. Now you are thinking for him/her too!

Are you a Gary, Indian afite too? Such an interesting coincidence......

[lictor616]

Unrelated to the land reclamation. He's now serving 4 1/2 years.

Just to qualify the following, it all refer to 2006, during the 6 week blockade, following the OPP raid on the site. It is true that some homeowners experienced what they perceived as frightening events. It is also true that many more didn't perceive it as frightening. It is true that someone has reported seeing a gun. It has never been verified, and the Clan Mothers are very strict about that.

Like I said, all in the 6 weeks after the OPP raid. Complain to them.

Seriously, the "gunshots" turned out to be the nightly drumming, and it's true some people were irrationally afraid of that.

The gasoline was planted by some Caledonia mischief-makers, near steel hydro towers - go figure!

I must have missed it. Write out the offensive lyrics for me.

Really? I didn't know the Caledonia militia was going after whites.

Hate speech? By whom? You are really confused.

eeewwww! This is true white supremacist/neo-nazi twist and spin holocaust denial stuff!

I guess wiki is wrong?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_chamber

The gas chamber at Auschwitz I was reconstructed after the war as a memorial,

WAA WAA WAA Oh, get out the violins. Another angry old white guy.

You don't speak for "white Canadians".

Reported.

Disgusting.

lictor666wannabe should be banned.

"savage" is pure racism. No excuse for that, ever.

the man isn't doing 4 and 1/2 years... please cite your sources.

The rest of your reply is just rejecting out of hand everything without qualifications. we have video clips of natives shouting death threats... and here you are pathetically denying it!

There you are INSANELY denying that natives are particularly prone to illegal activity (as if you've never heard of the drug, cigarette, bootlegging and crime of the natives)

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/khtml/2006...FGXj7whiFtQhPxg

and here you are waxing indignant about racism!?!?!?

whatabout the native supremacist movements in Caledonia, with its undertones of native racial supremacy to "the white man" ? Natives saying that white people are all ku kluxers and all deserving of DEATH... HELLO!!! that's incitement to genocide!

http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/NativeSupremacy.html

what about all the native "pride" nonsense, which is really code word for native supremacy? What about all those pics of grinning indians with machetes and guns and "canada is ALL OURS" sign?

http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/video/MohawkWarriors.wmv

What if white canadians had pro european flags and posed menacingly armed on pictures with "CANADA IS OURS" slogans? Yeah you'd be whining about racism wouldn't you?

Peep this video, http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/video/shawnbrant.wmv

A native of the Caledonia area is here saying that natives should not stop their assault on "the white man" until his children's faces are ground in the mud and "they suffer like we suffered" to unanimous and enthusiastic applause... again are these the level headed peaceable Indians you're talking about?

he also so says "i don't give a rat's ass whether we create victims, whether white people like us or don't"

this clip http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/video/kkkcanada.wmv

Highlights the communist revolutionnary underpinnings of the Indian resistance in caledonia... and juxtaposes protesting indians with pictures of blacks supremacists and other haters of white people (the racist Malcom X as well).

Below in this website you'll see what some of the natives post about "white people" http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/news/racism.html

it's your usual dehumanization of white people, calling for their death and suffering, in order to install a native supremacy state... Your usual blatant racism... that is categorically ignored by all those high sounding human rights commission who's duty is (as we all know) to sniff out WHITE racism only...

about that native that got hit with a weapons violation (the ak 47 wielding maniac) the pro native witnesses were reported saying

" Please, please, please............ DO NOT PICK UP ANY WEAPON UPON YOUR BROTHERS, SISTERS. Leave the whitemans weapons with.......... the whiteman. "

which is code word for if you're going to use your weapons ... use them on white people only...

charming stuff really...

I could go on and on lifting more examples of Native hatred of white people, their GENOCIDAL hatred in fact, but clearly anyone (including you tango) already knows about the deep racial hatreds that fester under Native people's skulls. They yammer about racism, yet we know them for what they really are... barefaced brazen HYPOCRITES.

but of course the fact remains that their racism is tolerated and even venerated by some (like yourself tango)

So please, retain sufficient decency to not complain about racism... you know and I know that its deceitful nonsense...

[lictor616]

Not by natives, or you would have said so. Ya, lots of barns burned that summer, eh.

Reported.

Disgusting.

lictor666wannabe should be banned.

"savage" is pure racism. No excuse for that, ever.

you've called the white settlers here "savages" on numerous occasions, you've also exposed your hatred for whites and the Western world which they represent many times here... why the double standards? Why report me?

Also the people in pictures with machetes, ak's and various arms, screaming and threatening and generally behaving like cave beasts positively ARE SAVAGES...

what? is Savages the new "n" word!? nonsense savages has no racial connotation ... a white, black and asian person can be savage... so there is no racism in my statement.

[charter.rights]

you've called the white settlers here "savages" on numerous occasions, you've also exposed your hatred for whites and the Western world which they represent many times here... why the double standards? Why report me?

Also the people in pictures with machetes, ak's and various arms, screaming and threatening and generally behaving like cave beasts positively ARE SAVAGES...

what? is Savages the new "n" word!? nonsense savages has no racial connotation ... a white, black and asian person can be savage... so there is no racism in my statement.

INCORRECT!

I would suggest to be on you mark, you need to reference any post where tango or I used the word savage, let alone to refer to "whites" as being savages. That is a lie obviously to hide your own guilt.

And yes, your statement was full of racist statements and connotations.

[lictor616]

INCORRECT!

I would suggest to be on you mark, you need to reference any post where tango or I used the word savage, let alone to refer to "whites" as being savages. That is a lie obviously to hide your own guilt.

And yes, your statement was full of racist statements and connotations.

what giult? i made no pretense of apologizing for calling the grinning indians with machetes in caledonia "savages"... they truelly are an unruly, violent and bunch...

does that mean that I think ALL NATIVES ARE SAVAGES... no pointdexter ... it doesnt...

of course you would say that I think it does... just to attack me personally not my arguments...

[lictor616]

INCORRECT!

I would suggest to be on you mark, you need to reference any post where tango or I used the word savage, let alone to refer to "whites" as being savages. That is a lie obviously to hide your own guilt.

And yes, your statement was full of racist statements and connotations.

and isn't it funny that despite all the citation and damning indictments of native racism towards white didn't compel you to even comment on them... I'm there lifting example after example of native racism and hatred... CALLS TO GENOCIDE EVEN!!! and you shamelessly blameshift and put the onus back onto me personally.. what kind of attitude does that show you have?

do you really care about real racism... no... no you don't.. you just care about racism... if its white.. which would be funny if it weren't so pathetic...

[charter.rights]

and isn't it funny that despite all the citation and damning indictments of native racism towards white didn't compel you to even comment on them... I'm there lifting example after example of native racism and hatred... CALLS TO GENOCIDE EVEN!!! and you shamelessly blameshift and put the onus back onto me personally.. what kind of attitude does that show you have?

do you really care about real racism... no... no you don't.. you just care about racism... if its white.. which would be funny if it weren't so pathetic...

You made a claim that tango made racist statements. I called you on your bullshit. Put up references or shut up!

Lying doesn't help your case.

[charter.rights]

what giult? i made no pretense of apologizing for calling the grinning indians with machetes in caledonia "savages"... they truelly are an unruly, violent and bunch...

does that mean that I think ALL NATIVES ARE SAVAGES... no pointdexter ... it doesnt...

of course you would say that I think it does... just to attack me personally not my arguments...

These are YOUR words:

what an Orwellian world we live in... how utterly without self respect and backbone are ordinary canadians... Even as their own children are threatened by hate filled, squalid and savage indians... they do nothing out of the fear of being called "racist"!

You were not addressing specifics. You made a generalized racist statement against an identifiable group. That is a crime in Canada and it the moderators have any backbone, it would be cause for being banned.

Edited July 2, 2009 by charter.rights

[lictor616]

These are YOUR words:

You were not addressing specifics. You made a generalized racist statement against an identifiable group. That is a crime in Canada and it the moderators have any backbone, it would be cause for being banned.

the specifics??? The specific s are that tango wishes to generalize all whites who don't give natives everything they want as white supremacist neo nazis "old white hetero men".... In his view (he made it patently clear) white supremacists are moral failures... akin to child rapers and murderers... He uses these labels to dehumanize whites who hold any views dissenting from his own... thus he thinks that white caledonians who want to oust a native who illegally has a smoke shack on private territory is a "neo nazi white supremacist" that should be imprisoned if not outright killed.

It amounts to racism... because he applies moral standards according to people's race...

And he often liked to lump in whites (all whites mind you) as white supremacists whenever natives are demonstrating with guns, terrorizing whites and calling for genoicde of white people.

He ignores the clear racism of Natives, and then attacks WHITES for speaking out against it...

invert the races ... and tango would have an entirely different stance.

Does tango generalize white people as white supremacists? yes, he often does..

here are some quotes:

tango quote: 1 “Caledonia is a chosen battlefield for white supremacists to reign supreme in an Ontario town.”

tango quote2 : "and as clear as to who the Caucasian males are too! Self-absorbed white males don't hide their bigotry very well."

tango quote 3: tango was told about the obvious double standards of granting indians preferential treatment based on THEIR RACE... a replying poster to tango said that "Making any decision based on race is racism."

to which tango replied: "Not true. No matter how angry old heterosexual white men may be about the real rule of law in Canada, this argument for 'racism' holds no truth."

here he is in effect saying that native racism isn't really racism... and giving preferrential treatment based on race (if that race is native) is not really "racism".

here he is talking about whites who want to uphold the law and defend themselves from native aggression: "

tango quote 4: "Lots of communities have crime, but that's a policing issue.

White supremacists are everybody's issue,"

here's another response to my statement that natives should be treated as equals and no given free rides for their transgressions on the count of their race:

tango quote 5:

"WAA WAA WAA "Oh, get out the violins. Another angry old white guy." (labeling and stereotyping me as another old racist white guy, that needs to be killed) "

so please... don't lecture me on labeling, stereotyping, generalizing and pigeonholing... talk to tango ...

he's use of the words "neo nazi" come up 30 times in this thread when describing your average caledonian... "white supremacist" even more! these labels are nothing but unhidden hatred and are SOLELY meant to generate hostility and hatred for white people in general ..

and you're not fooling anyone by defending it...

[lictor616]

These are YOUR words:

You were not addressing specifics. You made a generalized racist statement against an identifiable group. That is a crime in Canada and it the moderators have any backbone, it would be cause for being banned.

also again... neither you or tango addressed my examples of native supremacist hatred... I had video after video of native community leaders calling to kill white people... to "stare the white man down his face" and "hurt him worse then he hurt us" to "ground their kids face in the mud"

i've had link after link of reported accounts of arson, theft, death threats, illegal weapons, and racist mostivated attacks on white homes in caledonia...

and its all ho hum to you guys... you don't even respond to it! You just call ME and others white supremacists (taht presumably should be killed)...

really! and you think yourselves level headed and "anti racist"...

you guys need a serious reality check.

[charter.rights]

the specifics??? The specific s are that tango wishes to generalize all whites who don't give natives everything they want as white supremacist neo nazis "old white hetero men".... In his view (he made it patently clear) white supremacists are moral failures... akin to child rapers and murderers... He uses these labels to dehumanize whites who hold any views dissenting from his own... thus he thinks that white caledonians who want to oust a native who illegally has a smoke shack on private territory is a "neo nazi white supremacist" that should be imprisoned if not outright killed.

It amounts to racism... because he applies moral standards according to people's race...

And he often liked to lump in whites (all whites mind you) as white supremacists whenever natives are demonstrating with guns, terrorizing whites and calling for genoicde of white people.

He ignores the clear racism of Natives, and then attacks WHITES for speaking out against it...

invert the races ... and tango would have an entirely different stance.

Does tango generalize white people as white supremacists? yes, he often does..

here are some quotes:

tango quote: 1 “Caledonia is a chosen battlefield for white supremacists to reign supreme in an Ontario town.”

tango quote2 : "and as clear as to who the Caucasian males are too! Self-absorbed white males don't hide their bigotry very well."

tango quote 3: tango was told about the obvious double standards of granting indians preferential treatment based on THEIR RACE... a replying poster to tango said that "Making any decision based on race is racism."

to which tango replied: "Not true. No matter how angry old heterosexual white men may be about the real rule of law in Canada, this argument for 'racism' holds no truth."

here he is in effect saying that native racism isn't really racism... and giving preferrential treatment based on race (if that race is native) is not really "racism".

here he is talking about whites who want to uphold the law and defend themselves from native aggression: "

tango quote 4: "Lots of communities have crime, but that's a policing issue.

White supremacists are everybody's issue,"

here's another response to my statement that natives should be treated as equals and no given free rides for their transgressions on the count of their race:

tango quote 5:

"WAA WAA WAA "Oh, get out the violins. Another angry old white guy." (labeling and stereotyping me as another old racist white guy, that needs to be killed) "

so please... don't lecture me on labeling, stereotyping, generalizing and pigeonholing... talk to tango ...

he's use of the words "neo nazi" come up 30 times in this thread when describing your average caledonian... "white supremacist" even more! these labels are nothing but unhidden hatred and are SOLELY meant to generate hostility and hatred for white people in general ..

and you're not fooling anyone by defending it...

Now I know you aren't all there......yet.

White supremacists do not represent all Caucasians - not a majority, not even a recognizable minority. They are a group of morally corrupt individuals and have no place in Canadian society except in the basement of their morally corrupt parents. To discuss, chastise or berate white supremacists doesn't even come close to racism, or hate - especially when it comes from mainstream Canadians, white, brown or yellow.

You have no clues what anybody "thinks" here. All you have is your own twisted thinking filter used to turn your own hate into cognitive dissonance. It is a technically a form of irrational and devolved thinking processes - projecting your own thoughts onto another and blaming them for what you are really thinking!

Tango hasn't even mentioned "your average Caledonian" in this thread. He has referred to McHale and Fleming as being vigilantes with connections to racist and white supremacists. There is proof floating around the net that confirms their affiliation with a number of white supremacist labeled groups. Unless you are one of them (and as dumb as they are you don;t match their intelligence) you have no reason to project your hate and anger onto a fellow Canadian.

You have proven yourself on more than one occasions to be using and defending racist language. I've point out the most recent case. Maybe you should tone it down a bit. You are really making yourself look like an ass.

[Mr. Whiteman Esq.]

Now I know you aren't all there......yet.

White supremacists do not represent all Caucasians - not a majority, not even a recognizable minority. They are a group of morally corrupt individuals and have no place in Canadian society except in the basement of their morally corrupt parents. To discuss, chastise or berate white supremacists doesn't even come close to racism, or hate - especially when it comes from mainstream Canadians, white, brown or yellow.

You have no clues what anybody "thinks" here. All you have is your own twisted thinking filter used to turn your own hate into cognitive dissonance. It is a technically a form of irrational and devolved thinking processes - projecting your own thoughts onto another and blaming them for what you are really thinking!

Tango hasn't even mentioned "your average Caledonian" in this thread. He has referred to McHale and Fleming as being vigilantes with connections to racist and white supremacists. There is proof floating around the net that confirms their affiliation with a number of white supremacist labeled groups. Unless you are one of them (and as dumb as they are you don;t match their intelligence) you have no reason to project your hate and anger onto a fellow Canadian.

You have proven yourself on more than one occasions to be using and defending racist language. I've point out the most recent case. Maybe you should tone it down a bit. You are really making yourself look like an ass.

I've seen pictures of you, and you're not exactly a real looker yourself.

[Mr. Whiteman Esq.]

Do you ever say anything intelligent?

Waiting ... waiting ...

Why do you even bud into Six Nations affairs? Aren't you being a typical white by thinking that you know better than them and have to impose yourself on everything and everybody?

[charter.rights]

Why do you even bud into Six Nations affairs? Aren't you being a typical white by thinking that you know better than them and have to impose yourself on everything and everybody?

As far as been demonstrated here, I don't think tango has been involved with"Six Nations' affairs" Rather he has been going after the Gary McHale and Doug Fleming's bonehead militia idea and pointing out that not only was the idea targeting natives but there is likely racist and white supremacist motives behind it. Of course that is a Canadian issue that should should concern all Canadians.

[charter.rights]

I've seen pictures of you, and you're not exactly a real looker yourself.

That would be unlikely since I don't let people take pictures of me. It must have been a mirror you were looking into....although I never knew they made one with a wide-angle view.

Although...you might want to get your bald-headed shit flinging monkey back under control. No doubt, the people here are getting sick of his music. It grinds at your soul.....

You aren't doing much for his public image are you.....

Edited July 2, 2009 by charter.rights

[lictor616]

As far as been demonstrated here, I don't think tango has been involved with"Six Nations' affairs" Rather he has been going after the Gary McHale and Doug Fleming's bonehead militia idea and pointing out that not only was the idea targeting natives but there is likely racist and white supremacist motives behind it. Of course that is a Canadian issue that should should concern all Canadians.

its like talking to a wall!.....

yes but the natives themselves, are blatantly supremacists... they have nothing positive to say about Euro Canadians... they truly DO HATE US...

I mean the video I posted earlier of that community leader saying "we have to crush the white man's children's faces in the mud and make them suffer worst then we suffered" to enthusiastic applause ... sorta puts the lie on the notion that these native are the happy peaceable carefree peace pipe hitting fellas you make them out to be...

And the hole "KKKanada" on their posters and placards... i mean really are we talking to level headed natives here... or deranged isolated hate filled bigots?

If you think "supremism" and racism are "a Canadian issue that should should concern all Canadians" then stop being a hypocrite and address ALL THE supremacists... not just the white ones... and really your pathetic claim that white people wanting to defend their community and rights from racist "canada is all ours... get off our land white man" natives are all "neo nazi white supremacists" really just shows you for what you are: a brazen shameless hypocrite and moral reprobate.

either address all races, or shut up about racism...

[lictor616]

White supremacists do not represent all Caucasians - not a majority, not even a recognizable minority. They are a group of morally corrupt individuals and have no place in Canadian society except in the basement of their morally corrupt parents. To discuss, chastise or berate white supremacists doesn't even come close to racism, or hate - especially when it comes from mainstream Canadians, white, brown or yellow.

You have no clues what anybody "thinks" here. All you have is your own twisted thinking filter used to turn your own hate into cognitive dissonance. It is a technically a form of irrational and devolved thinking processes - projecting your own thoughts onto another and blaming them for what you are really thinking!

Tango hasn't even mentioned "your average Caledonian" in this thread. He has referred to McHale and Fleming as being vigilantes with connections to racist and white supremacists. There is proof floating around the net that confirms their affiliation with a number of white supremacist labeled groups. Unless you are one of them (and as dumb as they are you don;t match their intelligence) you have no reason to project your hate and anger onto a fellow Canadian.

You have proven yourself on more than one occasions to be using and defending racist language. I've point out the most recent case. Maybe you should tone it down a bit. You are really making yourself look like an ass.

okay, white supremacists have no place in canadian society... nice for you to decide... is white supremism even a crime? is racism a crime? tell me why then they shouldn't be allowed to live or stay here?

secondly (and more to the point) WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE NATIVE SUPREMACISTS... ie a healthy majority of natives (if we check out the recent native poll taken in ontario: how 87% believe canada is THEIR country and theirs alone, and they should kick out ALL non natives) ? What about these people? why do you take their defense? Why do you refuse to acknowledge their faults?

well, of course we all KNOW why you do this tango... whoops i mean charter rights... its because you yourself are a racist... who mutters with the hatred of white people. You use your labels to dehumanize people... because you know that "neo nazi" and "white supremacist" is some sort of moral flaw or disease of the mind (as i noted earlier, that you seem to equate with pedophilia or murder) these labels dehumanize the people you hate: white people who aren't ashamed of their ethnicity.

Your bias is present on every line you write... its painfully obvious... all I,m wondering is why you're holding out? Just come out of the closet and say it.... you hate white people... simple.. liberate yourself.... you know and we know ... and we know that you know that we know... that you do... you're a racist. you're the very thing you claim to fight...

so now go back to marxist cave and comeback when you're able to stop your scurvy hypocrisy and deceitfulness.

[charter.rights]

its like talking to a wall!.....

yes but the natives themselves, are blatantly supremacists... they have nothing positive to say about Euro Canadians... they truly DO HATE US...

I mean the video I posted earlier of that community leader saying "we have to crush the white man's children's faces in the mud and make them suffer worst then we suffered" to enthusiastic applause ... sorta puts the lie on the notion that these native are the happy peaceable carefree peace pipe hitting fellas you make them out to be...

And the hole "KKKanada" on their posters and placards... i mean really are we talking to level headed natives here... or deranged isolated hate filled bigots?

If you think "supremism" and racism are "a Canadian issue that should should concern all Canadians" then stop being a hypocrite and address ALL THE supremacists... not just the white ones... and really your pathetic claim that white people wanting to defend their community and rights from racist "canada is all ours... get off our land white man" natives are all "neo nazi white supremacists" really just shows you for what you are: a brazen shameless hypocrite and moral reprobate.

either address all races, or shut up about racism...

Ouch....you hurt me....NOT!

I know many native people and work with many more each day. No they do not hate us. Nor are they supremacists of any kind. Some of them are just like you. They are angry and aren't intelligent enough to express that anger in a constructive way. But the difference is they are not organized like the white supremacists are. They do not hold meetings to discuss hate and racism. They do not attend rallies as a group for the purpose of bashing in the anglos.

Six Nations has a valid claim against Canada. It has nothing to do with race. That is Gary McHale invention. They have a nation to nation dispute over treaties and agreements that were not only made with the British, but are not entrenched in and protected as the supreme law of Canada.

You make reference to articles and depositions off the Caledoniawakeupcall site. That is run by Gary McHale and is a blatantly racist site. I have forensic evidence that proves that one video in particular - the Native Supremacy Movement as Gary says - is a fabrication. The data stream has been examined by video experts and it shows that it has been poorly spliced. Most of the other stuff is bogus since McHale has on many occasions changed the titles and context of the articles from media streams in order to support his racist views . Making links to CWUC is about as funny as the clowns at the Barnum and Bailey circus.

I have no problem with people taking responsibility to protect their communities. However, when the head of the militant group - once who has been convicted of mischief - says his goal is to incite a confrontation to get the OPP to act, it is not about protection but about....what did your handler call it...."sedition". It is criminal mischief targeting na identifiable group and borders on hate crimes.

Hey how is it that you were not out protecting your community today when the 21 year old got beat up? Or was it you that did that?

[charter.rights]

okay, white supremacists have no place in canadian society... nice for you to decide... is white supremism even a crime? is racism a crime? tell me why then they shouldn't be allowed to live or stay here?

secondly (and more to the point) WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE NATIVE SUPREMACISTS... ie a healthy majority of natives (if we check out the recent native poll taken in ontario: how 87% believe canada is THEIR country and theirs alone, and they should kick out ALL non natives) ? What about these people? why do you take their defense? Why do you refuse to acknowledge their faults?

well, of course we all KNOW why you do this tango... whoops i mean charter rights... its because you yourself are a racist... who mutters with the hatred of white people. You use your labels to dehumanize people... because you know that "neo nazi" and "white supremacist" is some sort of moral flaw or disease of the mind (as i noted earlier, that you seem to equate with pedophilia or murder) these labels dehumanize the people you hate: white people who aren't ashamed of their ethnicity.

Your bias is present on every line you write... its painfully obvious... all I,m wondering is why you're holding out? Just come out of the closet and say it.... you hate white people... simple.. liberate yourself.... you know and we know ... and we know that you know that we know... that you do... you're a racist. you're the very thing you claim to fight...

so now go back to marxist cave and comeback when you're able to stop your scurvy hypocrisy and deceitfulness.

Now you are really mixed up. You have confused your own hate and vitriol for rational thinking. You are so confused......

[lictor616]

Ouch....you hurt me....NOT!

I know many native people and work with many more each day. No they do not hate us. Nor are they supremacists of any kind. Some of them are just like you. They are angry and aren't intelligent enough to express that anger in a constructive way. But the difference is they are not organized like the white supremacists are. They do not hold meetings to discuss hate and racism. They do not attend rallies as a group for the purpose of bashing in the anglos.

Six Nations has a valid claim against Canada. It has nothing to do with race.

I stopped reading there... no point in continuing really... more ad hominem attacks... more garbage...

They don't hate us... but 87% of them want us dead or off their land...

Their not organized ... but (you haven't commented on this for the third time) there are videos of them in their compounds with "leaders" saying they want to kill white children and make them suffer TO UNIVERSAL APPLAUSE, they have book publishing firms, grades, ranks members, websites, a little propaganda machine.... they really ARE organized

They are armed and very organized as caledonia and the Oka debacle proved clearly proves.

As for me not being intelligent... my intelligence or lack thereof has nothing to do with native supremacy and racism. And expressing my views in a forum with people who hold dissenting opinions I think is a most constructive way of "channeling" my "anger". I know you would rather silence people who aren't 100% in agreement and lockstep with you... as your pathetic hand wringing and snitching suggests - and threats to having me reported... those are the tactics of the person who knows he's wrong.... but you are what you are: a deceitful hypocrite... i'm not saying this as an ad hominem attack ... i'm saying this because you claim to be against racism... while opposing ONLY white racism and INSANELY rejecting any notion that other races can be racist too.. which makes YOU a racist in your own right.

You dodge native racism and avoid it or justify it... and look ONLY at the supposed "white supremacist" of the militia with absolutely zero sound evidence at your disposal... while I have offered 9 or 10 videos clearly depicting the organized, hateful natives calling for a white genocide... and you refuse to comment on it! That's deceitful isn't it?

The native supremacist videos have EVERYTHING to do with race, they call the blackfoot, the Cherokee and other american natives THEIR BROTHERS... they even made a native rap vid about how natives need to unite "to use the white man's guns against the white man" ...

but of course... why even continue... your next post will be nothing but rejection out of hand and ad hominem attacks and the usual hissing about racism and white supremacism...

Edited July 2, 2009 by lictor616