DrGreenthumb Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 My kids told me they saw the conservative attack ads against Ignatieff runnung on YTV today? Can anyone verify if the conservatives have really sunk low enough to start running their attack ads on children's channels? If this is true it is more evidence of what a slimy scumbag Harper really is. Quote
ToadBrother Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 My kids told me they saw the conservative attack ads against Ignatieff runnung on YTV today? Can anyone verify if the conservatives have really sunk low enough to start running their attack ads on children's channels? If this is true it is more evidence of what a slimy scumbag Harper really is. I guess that would suggest the mental age of their supporters nowadays. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 I see them quite often on the Action station... Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
CANADIEN Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 I see them quite often on the Action station... Which is owned by Corus, the comany that also owns YTV. I may be tempted to give the Conservatives the benefit of the doubt here. They may have just purchased publicity time from Corus, who then decided where to air it. YTV is still not an appropriate media for political advertising though. Quote
Muddy Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 Which is owned by Corus, the comany that also owns YTV.I may be tempted to give the Conservatives the benefit of the doubt here. They may have just purchased publicity time from Corus, who then decided where to air it. YTV is still not an appropriate media for political advertising though. I would agree with Canadian. I don`t think Harper had anything to do with placing the ads there. Calling him a scumbag is well over the top. Only a sad loser would call somebody that without any proof of his personal involvement. Quote
Jerry J. Fortin Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 Harper may not have had anything to do with it, but that does not absolve him of responsibility. Quote
madmax Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 There is nothing wrong with political adverstising on youth stations. Perhaps it is the content that is offensive to the posters here. If the political adverstising said.... "We are going to clean up our air, water, and make your education better with greater access to post secondary education. All who wish to continue to be doctors, lawyers, nurses, will not be held back because of their parents social status. Your government is here to help the youth of today be the future of tommorrow...." Or...... "remember to switch it OFF" ... those were good political commercials too.. However,commercials that suggest Ignatieff is an intellectual goof, who is an arrogant jerk.... vote for the dink in the blue conservative suit and make your Canada better..... Might not be so appropriate for Youth TV. Quote
Jerry J. Fortin Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 Advertising on YTV seems like a waste of time and funding given that the specific demographic for that channel cannot vote. Another mistake on the part of the political machine. Quote
Borg Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 Is there anything in these ads that is not truthful? If not - then I am not one to call them attack ads. In fact they are informations ads. As my neighbour told me this morning - he calls them "truth" ads. If the truth hurts - then so be it. Borg Quote
Argus Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 Advertising on YTV seems like a waste of time and funding given that the specific demographic for that channel cannot vote. Another mistake on the part of the political machine. YTV, like all the cable stations, often runs movies and other programs which have a somewhat wider appeal, and could be expected to draw adult audiences. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
jdobbin Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 Is there anything in these ads that is not truthful? The truth is that Harper would rather go after others than govern. Quote
Jerry J. Fortin Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 YTV, like all the cable stations, often runs movies and other programs which have a somewhat wider appeal, and could be expected to draw adult audiences. I suppose that is true isn't it? I didn't give it much thought, but upon reflection I guess you are right. I will maintain that the target demographic is off a country mile in my opinion, but that is just me. Quote
Jerry J. Fortin Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 Is there anything in these ads that is not truthful?If not - then I am not one to call them attack ads. In fact they are informations ads. As my neighbour told me this morning - he calls them "truth" ads. If the truth hurts - then so be it. Borg I would suggest that it is gutter politics. About the right level for our current Prime Minister. Quote
Borg Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 (edited) I would suggest that it is gutter politics. About the right level for our current Prime Minister. It is a dirty game - one that the chretien and martin teams did well at. In fact excelled at - nice to see some turn about. Be that as it may - I ask again: Is there anything in these ads that is not truthful? If there is - or they have been falsified to mislead - then perhaps they could be considered an attack. If there was anything not truthful - I am certain the libs would be in the courts and the ads would be pulled Now - how many people in Canada do not know about this transplanted American? I would venture many - from young to old - simply because of the standard Canadian apathy. If they encourage discussion then I am all for them. You do not have to like it - the truth may hurt - but it is the truth. Cannot take the heat? Get out of the kitchen. Borg Edited May 20, 2009 by Borg Quote
Borg Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 The truth is that Harper would rather go after others than govern. That is the pot calling the kettle black - you are so rabid in your convictions you are blind to the past. Borg Quote
segnosaur Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 YTV, like all the cable stations, often runs movies and other programs which have a somewhat wider appeal, and could be expected to draw adult audiences. True... If you look at the schedule for YTV, they do have cartoons like Spongebob Squarepants during the day, but tonight they have: - Malcom in the Middle - Futurama (a cartoon, but one that is not necessarily geared towards kids) - Fresh Prince of Bel-air Each one of those shows would have at least some interest to those outside the 'children' demographic. (Given the fact that the channel runs 24/7, and not too many kids are up past midnight, you'd expect them to have at least some material that appeals to non-children) Quote
segnosaur Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 The truth is that Harper would rather go after others than govern. Well, the sad fact is that if he donesn't "go after others", he might loose all chance to govern. Politics is messy. Nice guys can and do finish last. For that, see "Stanfield, Robert". As others have pointed out, the Tories willingness to get dirty is certainly not that different from actions taken in the past by Liberal governments. Quote
jdobbin Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 Well, the sad fact is that if he donesn't "go after others", he might loose all chance to govern. Hard to tell why he wants the job when he is so focused on what is in the rear view mirror. Politics is messy. Nice guys can and do finish last. For that, see "Stanfield, Robert". And sometimes nasty guys get tossed as well. As others have pointed out, the Tories willingness to get dirty is certainly not that different from actions taken in the past by Liberal governments. Which Harper said he was not going to emulate. Quote
jdobbin Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 That is the pot calling the kettle black - you are so rabid in your convictions you are blind to the past. Just pointing out that Harper acts like sociopath in his behaviour. Are you so rabid in your convictions that you don't see that? He is known as Mr. Mean in Quebec. Not exactly the most electable title. Quote
DrGreenthumb Posted May 20, 2009 Author Report Posted May 20, 2009 If corus wants to run bullshit attack ads during my kids programs I guess that is their right, its my right however to delete those channels from my channel list until they smarten up. Maybe I'll start a facebook group called delete Corus. We can encourage everyone to delete the chorus stations from their satelite channel guide as long as they choose to spew Harperganda. Quote
CANADIEN Posted May 21, 2009 Report Posted May 21, 2009 There is nothing wrong with political adverstising on youth stations. Perhaps it is the content that is offensive to the posters here. Excuse me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that the target of YTV is children and teenages. Not young adults. Then, political ads of any stripes have no place there. If the political adverstising said...."We are going to clean up our air, water, and make your education better with greater access to post secondary education. All who wish to continue to be doctors, lawyers, nurses, will not be held back because of their parents social status. Your government is here to help the youth of today be the future of tommorrow...." Or...... "remember to switch it OFF" ... those were good political commercials too.. However,commercials that suggest Ignatieff is an intellectual goof, who is an arrogant jerk.... vote for the dink in the blue conservative suit and make your Canada better..... Might not be so appropriate for Youth TV. Ads encouraging children to become what they can be and to help reserve the energy are political? :lol: Quote
Borg Posted May 21, 2009 Report Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) Just pointing out that Harper acts like sociopath in his behaviour. Are you so rabid in your convictions that you don't see that? He is known as Mr. Mean in Quebec. Not exactly the most electable title. In kebec? Well, that is a place that needs a lesson or two on how to be Canadian at the best of times. Certainly they have a party that is supported by folks in that province - who are dedicated to breaking up the country. Borg Edited May 21, 2009 by Borg Quote
jdobbin Posted May 21, 2009 Report Posted May 21, 2009 In kebec? Well, that is a place that needs a lesson or two on how to be Canadian at the best of times. I'm sure some on the right would like to give that lesson. Certainly they have a party that is supported by folks in that province - who are dedicated to breaking upthe country. We have people in Alberta as well who are committed to breaking up the country. Quote
Borg Posted May 21, 2009 Report Posted May 21, 2009 I'm sure some on the right would like to give that lesson. We have people in Alberta as well who are committed to breaking up the country. People in many provinces actually Not sitting in the national house and receiving tax payer support though. Mind you the kebec gang of crooks, thugs and misfits are a regional party and should have their asses kicked out of the house of commons Borg Quote
Smallc Posted May 21, 2009 Report Posted May 21, 2009 Ok, seriously, is it not against the rules of this forum to intentionally misspell the name of a Canadian province for the purpose of insulting it? Quote
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