lictor616 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 Never mind that people in this country have the right to engage in peacful demonstration, which is what was happening... But hey, at least you got yet another opportunity to engage in racist raving. Go get some slaves. how was anything of what argus said "racist"? Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
lictor616 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 That's right, you don't know.In the 1947 and 1948 editions of the World Almanac, it is clearly stated that the estimate of the Jewish populations are based on 1938 figures. The 1949 edition gives numbers pre and post-war, with a difference of 5 000 000 between the two. In a report written for Himmler in 1932, SS doctor Richard Korherr estimated that the Jewish population of Europe had decreased by one half between 1933 and 1942. Hilberg bases his estimates of Jewish population on these very same almanac figures... Is raul hilberg a "holocaust denier" too? So does Leni Yahil... btw... and a difference of 5 million? ... what implications does this have for the 6 million number? The fact is that the official Holocaust story does display irregularities and it would be quite right to dispute them to set the record as straight as possible.... but it won't happen because the shoddier academia of "holocaust studies" is for all practical purposes illegal to debate. after all The Nuremberg tribunals listed 3 eye witness accounts (3 of them having different testimonies) to account for the 750 000 dead jews in Treblinka... not a single sample soil was taken, no forensic investigations... nothign.. for Treblinka we have 3 eye witness accounts... and the questionable self sabotaged testimony of Kurt Gerstein... If one expresses any doubts about any of this... its considered criminal in some countries... deplorable isn't it? Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
M.Dancer Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 how was anything of what argus said "racist"? You don't think caslling a literate people "savages" racist? Well of course you don't, you have a savage tribal mind.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
lictor616 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 You don't think caslling a literate people "savages" racist? Well of course you don't, you have a savage tribal mind.... not at all.... I use this word to describe the very white "squeegee panhandlers" I see far too often on street corners and some Haitian boat people once... savage doesn't necessarily denote one's "race"... maybe to you it has a certain connotation... but anyways. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
tango Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 You don't think caslling a literate people "savages" racist? Well of course you don't, you have a savage tribal mind.... Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
tango Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) Some info about the protest by Tamil Canadians in Ottawa ... An estimated 100,000 civilians remain trapped in the conflict zone between the Tamil Tigers and the Sri Lankan army in the north of the country. On Monday, the Sri Lankan government gave the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) 24 hours to lay down their arms or face further attack in a "final offensive" raising concerns that civilian casualties could spiral. "The security of civilians trapped between Sri Lankan forces and the Tamil Tigers is paramount," said Yolanda Foster, Amnesty International's Sri Lanka expert. "The plight of these civilians demands that the Sri Lankan government and the LTTE take all necessary measures immediately to prevent unlawful killing of civilians and that they fully comply with their obligations under international humanitarian law. "The LTTE and the Sri Lankan government must cease hostilities with immediate effect and agree to extend a humanitarian pause for a reasonable duration, in order to permit civilians to leave as well as the reopening of access routes for food, water and medical supplies. " Both parties have an obligation to comply with international humanitarian law in all circumstances. However, the government appears to have resorted to the use of heavy weapons such as artillery, which is intended for use on conventional battlefields and are not capable of pinpoint targeting. The use of artillery in densely populated areas is likely to lead to indiscriminate attacks. "The Tamil Tigers must cease forced recruitment, the use of civilians as human shields and deliberate attacks on civilians who have tried to escape from areas under their control," said Yolanda Foster. "They must immediately allow those civilians who wish to leave to do so." I can see how they couldn't move 10,000 people who were intent upon being near Parliament. I the messages from the Tamil community in Canada are ones that I can support. And this one too ... Minister Kenney Makes Statement on Yom Hashoah, Holocaust Remembrance Day OTTAWA, ONTARIO -- 04/21/09 -- The Honourable Jason Kenney, Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism, issued the following statement on Yom HaShoah, Holocaust Remembrance Day. "The extermination of millions of Jewish people during World War II was a crime against all humankind. In remembering the Holocaust and paying tribute to its victims, we renew our commitment to fight against the evils of racism, discrimination and anti-Semitism. "The Holocaust stands alone in human history for its horror and its inhumanity. It is crucial that we learn from this experience, not only to ensure that such atrocities never take place again, but also to better enable us to build societies based on a respect for human dignity, in which such acts are not possible. "Our government has taken a principled stance in combating Holocaust denial and anti-Semitism. More than a year ago, I announced that Canada would refuse to participate in the racist Durban process because we had serious concerns that the failings of the 2001 World Conference Against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance in Durban, South Africa, would be repeated at the 2009 Durban Review Conference. In 2001, the Durban Conference degenerated into open and divisive expressions of intolerance and anti-Semitism. Yesterday's speech by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vindicated Canada's principled decision to lead the world in withdrawing from the conference. As a result of Canada announcing its withdrawal from the Durban Review Conference, Canada's seat will be vacant for the duration of the conference. Edited April 22, 2009 by tango Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
CANADIEN Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 how was anything of what argus said "racist"?Because, like most of everything he says, it is imbued with hate towards anyone who is not "white" enough for him. Quote
lictor616 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) Because, like most of everything he says, it is imbued with hate towards anyone who is not "white" enough for him. bet you can't point out to a single instance of it... and I bet you have not a word of reprimand for the many here who positively and explicitly hate anyone who is "TOO WHITE" for them... Edited April 22, 2009 by lictor616 Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
CANADIEN Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 it was later claimed that about 40,000,000 jews were destroyed Yeah right Quote
lictor616 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 Yeah right yes... Theodore Kaufman in many an article quoted that figure and I thought that common knowledge of the 40 million reader's digest figure was widely known... Some 1945 resources (reader's digest, time magazine, life magazine and countless other corroborate the 12 million figure for the total number of JEWS... ) Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
CANADIEN Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 bet you can't point out to a single instance of it... Shalll we start with the "savages" comment on this thread? Or the constant rambling about Muslims? Or maybe all those comments about immigrants stealing from welfare, taking the jobs of (white) Canadians, being incompetent, etc., etc., etc.? As for those who "hate whites", I have put some on my ignore list... Their entertainment value was even worse than their hatred. Quote
lictor616 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) Shalll we start with the "savages" comment on this thread? Or the constant rambling about Muslims? Or maybe all those comments about immigrants stealing from welfare, taking the jobs of (white) Canadians, being incompetent, etc., etc., etc.?As for those who "hate whites", I have put some on my ignore list... Their entertainment value was even worse than their hatred. yes lets! perhaps we can delve into a little stats and facts and whatnot to see if indeed some Muslim creeds, culture or people are indeed barbarous or ie: "savage"... they we can discuss exactly how our third world immigration system (which allows Canadian employers to hire Immigrants to fill Canadian jobs) doesn't in fact "TAKE POTENTIAL JOBS AWAY FROM CANADIANs"... I'd really love for you to explain this concept. say we have a barrel of 15 apples to be shared with 15 non-new immigrant Canadians... our government invite a Mexican over to get an apple for himself... how does this not deprive a canadian of an apple? Edited April 22, 2009 by lictor616 Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
CANADIEN Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 Hilberg bases his estimates of Jewish population on these very same almanac figures... Is raul hilberg a "holocaust denier" too? So does Leni Yahil... btw... and a difference of 5 million? ... what implications does this have for the 6 million number? The fact is that the official Holocaust story does display irregularities and it would be quite right to dispute them to set the record as straight as possible.... but it won't happen because the shoddier academia of "holocaust studies" is for all practical purposes illegal to debate. after all The Nuremberg tribunals listed 3 eye witness accounts (3 of them having different testimonies) to account for the 750 000 dead jews in Treblinka... not a single sample soil was taken, no forensic investigations... nothign.. for Treblinka we have 3 eye witness accounts... and the questionable self sabotaged testimony of Kurt Gerstein... If one expresses any doubts about any of this... its considered criminal in some countries... deplorable isn't it? What would be deplorable would be to even keep reading your Holocaust denial cr*p. Ignored. Quote
lictor616 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 What would be deplorable would be to even keep reading your Holocaust denial cr*p. Ignored. yes that's right: reject everything out of hand (because its too easy to refute)... yawn... much better to censor, and boycott questioning ... its must less suspicious and convincing that way... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
tango Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 yes that's right: reject everything out of hand (because its too easy to refute)... yawn... much better to censor, and boycott questioning ... its must less suspicious and convincing that way... Are you for real? Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
lictor616 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 Are you for real? about what? why bother responding if you're going to be this vague? Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
CANADIEN Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) Are you for real? Never forget, Tango Not listening to garbage is a form of censorship. :lol: Edited April 22, 2009 by CANADIEN Quote
lictor616 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 Never forgot, Tango Not listening to garbage is a form of censorship. :lol: notice of course taht you didn't ignore anything: you denied without qualifications... you simply rejected out of hand and refused to to shore up evidence or arguments... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
tango Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 bet you can't point out to a single instance of it... and I bet you have not a word of reprimand for the many here who positively and explicitly hate anyone who is "TOO WHITE" for them... wtf?? Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
tango Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) notice of course taht you didn't ignore anything: you denied without qualifications... you simply rejected out of hand and refused to to shore up evidence or arguments... oh shut up. Edited April 22, 2009 by tango Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
CANADIEN Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 oh shut up. How do you dare deny freedom of expression? :lol: Quote
lictor616 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 oh shut up. wow excellent refutation, can I get a source on that? seriously I think you've arrested all my questions now... solid solid academia really... kudos... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
lictor616 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 How do you dare deny freedom of expression? :lol: really wasn't expecting such rigorous debate tactics here guys, wow I guess I'm stumped... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Sir Bandelot Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 Holocaust denial is a crime in some countries. Even to suggest it... or post it on the internet, could be considered a crime. This website might even be held liable if it allowed certain views in some circumstances. I know this is true in places like France and Germany, but to some extent in Canada too. See Ernst Zundel. Not that I agree with such harsh restrictions on free speech. My attitude is that it only drives it underground, giving credence to conspiracy theorists. I think its preferable to debate it openly and get to the real truth, if thats even possible. Point is, in some countries you could go to jail just for saying whats been said in this thread here. Quote
CANADIEN Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 Holocaust denial is a crime in some countries. Even to suggest it... or post it on the internet, could be considered a crime. This website might even be held liable if it allowed certain views in some circumstances. I know this is true in places like France and Germany, but to some extent in Canada too. See Ernst Zundel.Not that I agree with such harsh restrictions on free speech. My attitude is that it only drives it underground, giving credence to conspiracy theorists. I think its preferable to debate it openly and get to the real truth, if thats even possible. Point is, in some countries you could go to jail just for saying whats been said in this thread here. I agree with you that Holocaust denial should not be treated as a crime. But do not agree that it is preferable to debate it. Far better, IMO, to show it the contempt it deserves and ignnnore it. One would waste his/her time debating with someone who believes the Earth is flat. Even more so here. Quote
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