jbg Posted January 1, 2009 Report Posted January 1, 2009 Observations at the End of a Traumatic Year 2008 will go down in history with years of other drastic financial meltdowns, such as the 1973-4 market collapse, the bankruptcy of the Penn Central railroad in 1970, and, depending on the future, the stock market crash of 1929. What it really should be remembered for is teaching the consequences of a total lack of discipline among those in position of power and trust in the private sector. Executives, only nominally restrained by pliant boards of directors, wrote themselves blank checks, while creating a system that gave absolutely no incentive for anyone to care about the success, failure or economic viability of undertakings. For example, back in the day, mortgages were written and held to maturity by local financial institutions with deep roots in the communities in which the borrowers lived. This had the salutary effect of making borrowers reluctant, from a social point of view, to renege on their obligations. It also made the lenders care deeply about whether the borrowers could afford the obligations they were undertaking. The securitization of mortgages created a situation where borrowers no longer had exposure to personal opprobrium for being “deadbeats” and lenders, having already received juicy fees for “originating” mortgages, cared not a whit if the borrower could or would pay. Appraisers knew their job was to certify that the loan to value ratio was sound. The amounts that were made in fees generating these financial instruments were enormous. The “bankers” and other people involved in this process earned fees and commissions that enabled them to live large. My community, an upper middle class to upper class community is filled with “financial consultants” and “financial advisors” living in houses worth $1,200,000 or more at the height of the folly. In fact, this heavily securitized debt was almost as illusory as the “Ponzi scheme profits” generated by Charles Ponzi in 1919 and Bernard Madoff for thirty or more years ending in December 2008. The securitization debacle toppled noted financial institutions as Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch and others; the Madoff scandal brought down charities and universities and countless other entities throughout the world. For a long time, I always wondered how many of my brethren afforded their standards of living. The large houses, BMW’s, second homes and ritzy vacations. Now I know the answer; they never were able to afford these. That doesn't mean that all people of means are phonies; only some are. What has been lacking is any sense of maturity and discipline which the authors of deregulation assumed business and community leaders would show. Freedom is not license. These same people, who for years would not deign to even talk to those not “intelligent enough” to understand the mumbo jumbo of meaningless financial devices, are now crying for their “bailout”. Sorry, these people can fly to Washington on commercial flights. They are not to rich or important. They are Americans, just like me. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BubberMiley Posted January 1, 2009 Report Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) I enjoyed this in DailyKos too. You must be NYCNDP? ...NDP? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/31/233134/54 Edited January 1, 2009 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
jbg Posted January 1, 2009 Author Report Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) I enjoyed this in DailyKos too. You must be NYCNDP? ...NDP?http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/31/233134/54 NYCNDP must have liked it so much they he or she copied it. Edited January 1, 2009 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Peter F Posted January 2, 2009 Report Posted January 2, 2009 I enjoyed this in DailyKos too. You must be NYCNDP? ...NDP?http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/31/233134/54 good one Bubber. Thanks. Quote A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
Shakeyhands Posted January 2, 2009 Report Posted January 2, 2009 LOL. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Muddy Posted January 2, 2009 Report Posted January 2, 2009 I am but a simple uneducated guy who has run his business in the black all my life. I brought my kids up in a house some would say was too small but like my Mom said ,kids are stackable. Now they have flown the coop and my Mrs . and I have a house plenty large enough. We never bought new cars or toys we could not pay cash for. We never took vacations we could not pay cash for. I never had a credit card till I was in my middle fifties and have had a bank card for seven years that I have never used. Why should I a simple man in his later years be bailing out those who would not give me the time of day because of dirt into my hands that will never come out from time and toil? Quote
jbg Posted January 2, 2009 Author Report Posted January 2, 2009 Why should I a simple man in his later years be bailing out those who would not give me the time of day because of dirt into my hands that will never come out from time and toil?Agreed, though not all "educated" people would not give the time of day to people with "dirt on (their) hands". I meet plenty of them all the time, and my friends are a rather eclectic group.Heck, I even recall meeting some at the CPC convention in Montreal. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BC_chick Posted January 2, 2009 Report Posted January 2, 2009 I enjoyed this in DailyKos too. You must be NYCNDP? ...NDP?http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/31/233134/54 :lol: Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
jbg Posted January 2, 2009 Author Report Posted January 2, 2009 Imitation (and plagarism) is the sincerest form of flattery. Hats off to NYCNDP of DailyKos. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BubberMiley Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Indeed. Hats off to NYCNDP. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
krazy kanuck Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 It makes me wonder just how bad 2009 will be. Quote Sick lungs don't show.
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