Inforced Sexual Harrassment Training?

[Oleg Bach]

Hearing a report this morning regarding the conditioning of any person in charge of any group - having to take a sexual harrassment course is distressing. Political correctness of this sort will continue to harm men and woman and instead of happily uniting the opposite sexes will have the effect of driving in another wedge between them.

We wonder why we continue to depend on immigration to beef up the populace - well it's simple we as a race and an extended national family are inforcing a behaviour that is counter productive. In other words we are frustrating the breeding population that is our lineage and family. If you take a walk along any urban street you sense a severe seperation and distrust of the opposite sex by both sexes - and the gayification situation is not helpful either.

One professor stated that he would not take this course unless the inforcers provided him with a document that stated that he was not a sexual deviant or harrasser of woman..they refused - so it seems that we are all crimminals - that we are simply the non-convicted. There was a time when office romance led to marriage and children. Now even the work place and the universities are making an effort to make sure no one finds a mate. You would think that we we were mature adults and that we could make up our own code of behaviour as far as interaction between the sexes - what's next - manditory anti-libido pills? There is to much man hate and woman hate going on - I just wish these unhappy social engineers would just go away and allow us NORMS to be normal and happy.

[guyser]

- I just wish these unhappy social engineers would just go away and allow us NORMS to be normal and happy.

The movie Young Frankenstein featured you.

Igor stole your jar off the shelf, but he called you AB...........Ab Normal.

[Oleg Bach]

Funny - what I was trying to say was - If a man or a woman make eye contact and eventually date and fall in love - that's wonderful - but with enforcement of politically correct sexual harrassment laws - the opposite sexes will be afraid to even approach each other - other than in a bar in a drunken stupor with bad judgement.

[guyser]

Funny - what I was trying to say was - If a man or a woman make eye contact and eventually date and fall in love - that's wonderful - but with enforcement of politically correct sexual harrassment laws - the opposite sexes will be afraid to even approach each other - other than in a bar in a drunken stupor with bad judgement.

Oh if that is what you were trying to say, then you were more wrong than I originally thought. Get out more and see.

The proliferation of internet dating sites makes your observation incorrect.

[Oleg Bach]

Oh if that is what you were trying to say, then you were more wrong than I originally thought. Get out more and see.

The proliferation of internet dating sites makes your observation incorrect.

Yes I should get out more but my X wife and adult kids are against me being happy.. There is a club down the street run by Eastern European gangster types. They are always hiring very attractive girls to tend bar - I see a lot of ass patting by management - I hear how the cleaners complain about used condoms on the storeroom floor - where these poor girls are more than harrassed. I see this management spend money on their cocaine habits and not pay the staff - Maybe these creeps should take the course - who is going to force them?

[moderateamericain]

Actually he has a point. Most of the high end Corporate people who make decisions for the company I work for are Men. Most of the women are in departments like marketing and accounting. But the real decision makers like myself and my boss and my boss's boss are all men. In fact I can not think of a single women who is of a higher rank then myself in my company save the HR people. (and they really are not over me other than if I do something wrong) I think what it has done is drive a wedge in thinking. The thought is "Well if just getting accused of harassment is enough to cost me my career, then screw it I can find a man equally qualified to do the same work." It sucks for women Im sure but hell its the world we live in i guess.

[Oleg Bach]

Inforced divison of the sexes is a by product of this type of restriction. The idea of my thead was that it is difficult enough to find good mates and you need all the chances you can get including work environments...Its all about the lost art of flirtation - a successful flirt does not approach the opposite sex sexually but with love care and respect..then maybe if their is mutual chemistry the biological can enter into the equation...I suppose the problem is - that most hormonally driven men can not seperate love from sex...no person want's to be sexed if they are serious and mature people - they want to be loved...If someone supervising behaviour can not tell the difference between people interacting in love as compared to sex...persecution can result - a lover may be treated as an aggressive sexualist.

[wulf42]

I worked with this fellow one time he and a lady he had worked with for over two years had become close friends and they used to make sexual jokes at one another all the time ...just being playful until one morning this lady came into work cranky and when my friend made a joke like he had done for the last two years with her... she charged him with sexual harrassment! She tried to retract it afterwards but the damage was done, i never joke or talk about anything sexual with women at work ever!...they'll turn on you faster than a racoon with rabies!

Edited December 6, 2008 by wulf42

[RB]

All I can say is when you are at work, you are in a professional environment and constraint to certain rules such as sexual harassment rules. If companies do not have written rules use your correct head, follow guidelines, use your common sense.

[Oleg Bach]

All I can say is when you are at work, you are in a professional environment and constraint to certain rules such as sexual harassment rules. If companies do not have written rules use your correct head, follow guidelines, use your common sense.

If you are a real man of maturity class and grace you approach females in the spirit of love - not selfish mindless sexuality. If you are nothing but a self serving breeding machine not willing to take on the results and responsiblity of mating - and want to harrass females into submission so you can abuse them - WE DON'T NEED A MALE LOWER THAN AN ANIMAL IN OUR MIDST...as for female abuse of males...the phenomena is growing where young females look at men as objects to achieve orgasm and then to be disposed of..these are not woman - these are also - nasty men in female bodies -----------------Love first --------------sex as the bonus second....Don't touch or approach in bad faith...simple rule.

[AngusThermopyle]

Okay Oleg, lets see if you can grasp this concept. Work is work. It is not a place to show everyone what an amature Lothario you are or how Rico Suave you can be.

If you are a profesional then you will treat your co workers, both female and male with respect and courtesy. Not as one divided by their sex or appearence, but as fellow profesionals engaged in a common task.

So, no, you do not approach your co workers in the spirit of love, or lust, or any such kind of thing, just respect.

Can you comprehend this rather simple and basic concept?

Edited December 9, 2008 by AngusThermopyle

[RB]

If you are a real man of maturity class and grace..........

Well now, last time I checked I was still a girl

But I can see the point if folks are going to cry harrassment then the prospect of the "hooking up" pool now gone from workplace. Then it is significant if girls and boys decide they do not wish to meet, date, socialise or marry a co-worker. But, I don't believe this is the case that folks don't fall in love with work mates and wish to stay clear. There are many people who have met their potential mates in the workplace. It is the unwelcome behaviors that are problematic and requires the rules to follow. Training is forward thinking to recognize these are rules of how to behave.

Sexual Harassment in the Workplace

80-90% of Canadian women will experience sexual harassment at some point in their working lives

WHAT ARE EXAMPLES OF SEXUALLY HARASSING BEHAVIOURS?

Stares/leers

Name calling

Sexual jokes

Howling/cat calls/whistles

Offensive, derogatory and pornographic pictures and materials on display Cornering, blocking, standing too close, following

Pressure for sexual activity

Sexual assault and attempted sexual assault

SEXUAL HARASSMENT IS NOT:

consensual sexual interaction

physical affection between friends

mutual flirtation, joking or teasing

Sexual harassment makes a person feel bad, angry and demeaned. It is unwanted, power-motivated and one sided.

So you can still have dates and relations with anyone you choose. You have to give up if the folks are not interested or say they are not interested, they feel bad etc.

(sorry I lost my initial post, so I had to retype)

Edited December 9, 2008 by RB