Past our limit

[margrace]

Okay before the Bullies say it I will say it. Put on your tin hats.

I watched a scientist from Frazer Univercity in BC talking on Knowledge network today. He said that at the first earth summit or whatever it was in the early ninties the scientest all warned that we were using too much of earths resources. At the next one the warning was much more strongly worded

It seems to me that here we are with oil shortages, food shortages and horrendous storms have we gone past the mark and are our governments afraid to tell us? Yes I know, you can say this too will pass, but will it?

Funny that it takes icebergs 4 years to reach Newfoundland and this year there are a huge amount of them all of a sudden. Do you really think this is just an anomolly

Well I will be 73 in June, it won't affect me that much but what age are the rest of you.

[Wild Bill]

Okay before the Bullies say it I will say it. Put on your tin hats.

I watched a scientist from Frazer Univercity in BC talking on Knowledge network today. He said that at the first earth summit or whatever it was in the early ninties the scientest all warned that we were using too much of earths resources. At the next one the warning was much more strongly worded

It seems to me that here we are with oil shortages, food shortages and horrendous storms have we gone past the mark and are our governments afraid to tell us? Yes I know, you can say this too will pass, but will it?

Funny that it takes icebergs 4 years to reach Newfoundland and this year there are a huge amount of them all of a sudden. Do you really think this is just an anomolly

Well I will be 73 in June, it won't affect me that much but what age are the rest of you.

I'm 55, MG. If it makes you feel any better, if we went out into space, brought back just ONE typical middlin' sized asteroid of typical nickel-iron ore(out of BILLIONS!), smelted it with free solar power in orbit so that the pollution added to Earth would be zero and dropped it in large one ton ingots just off shore (just ballistics! You aim it and it falls for free. Any artillery man worth his salt could do it in his sleep!) and you could supply the world's total steel needs for a fraction of today's price!

The capital investment would be huge but the payoff would make a company so rich it would make the oil companies look like a family run corner variety store!

The whole concept of fixed resources is a myth propagated by folks who keep staring at their feet and never look up to the stars! Once we settle on the moon we will have taken the first step to infinite resources.

[scribblet]

Part of the food 'shortage' today is man made because of ethanol etc. but I'm not sure why you are concerned about 'bullies' and tinfoil hats. Are you subscribing to a conspiracy theory, that this shortage is somehow intentional with the intent of depopulating the earth ?

[margrace]

No I just had this gut feeling that although we like to think we are masters of earth that we have managed to push too far. When i talk to my cousin in Ireland I realize that we have no idea what life is like when you are really poor. I hope my feeling is wrong, but I may not be hear to see that.

[margrace]

So a horrendous storm hits Burma killing thousands and with their paranoid government may end up killing millions. At least 10,000 dead in China and awful storms in the US, do you think we are immune and that this year is just an anomoly?

Ontario is on the downward slope, more job losses and Flaherty just says there are lots of jobs. Yes there seem to be but at half the pay, who will pay for those expensive homes.

Are we on the downward slope?

[madmax]

Part of the food 'shortage' today is man made because of ethanol etc.

Cattle Corn?

[madmax]

Ontario is on the downward slope, more job losses and Flaherty just says there are lots of jobs. Yes there seem to be but at half the pay, who will pay for those expensive homes.

Are we on the downward slope?

Dalton McGuinty used the same campaign wording as Flaherty last year. His Ministers and MPPs all talked about the fantatic job growth, disregarded the Manufacturing job loss trend, ignored the corporate pillaging of profitable manufacturers, and many of their supporters Live in the very large Expensive Homes you see being built.

Yes, the New Economy Jobs are at 2/3s to 1/2 the pay.