Foreign Nationalists in Canada: Please Leave

[kengs333]

It is a rather varied list isn't it. I'm one of "you people" too, because I chose to serve my adopted country for 20 years. That makes me a state sanctioned murderer, whoopee!

Evidently 20 years "service" doesn't do much for one's read comprehension. What exactly is so difficult about differentiating between immigrants in general and immigrants who have nationalistic sentiments towards their homeland?

[August1991]

Absolutely. This is why we should not give such people citizenship. Citizenship should only be earned after many years in this country to allow ones former allegiances to fade.

You call it "citizenship" but in fact the better word is "allegiance".

Argus, when "citizenship" is given out freely, "allegiance" takes on a different meaning.

I say this because IMV, the concept of "government" is about to undergo a radical change. If the Canadian Supreme Court adjudicates the criminal activities in Thailand of someone born in Mexico, then I guess Canadian citizenship is a flag of convenience.

To which government, in 2070, will your grandchildren or great-grandchildren owe allegiance? And to which "government" will they pay their taxes? Where do they pay taxes now?

In strictly practical terms, this idea of "nationalist" strikes me as simplistic. (Is it a question of language? Religion? Dhimmitude?)

The measure of the success of a society or a country is not voter turn-out. The measure of a civilized society is tax compliance - when a person pays taxes, that's the ultimate vote in favour of government.

Edited March 1, 2008 by August1991

[Argus]

Of course you would say that-you were already classified in the past on one of Keng's lists of "you people" that are ruining this country. "You people" always make comments like that.

They should deport you to the Republic of Uwepeoplia before you procreate and cause more "you people" to take over Canada with "you people" values.

Your posts on immigration tend to have this smug liberalism to them, Rue, which makes me almost hope that in 30 years, all the immigrants from certain lands you are so ardent to defend have made it necessary for Jewish schools, temples and centres here to have armed guards, as they do in France.

[Argus]

You call it "citizenship" but in fact the better word is "allegiance".

Argus, when "citizenship" is given out freely, "allegiance" takes on a different meaning.

I say this because IMV, the concept of "government" is about to undergo a radical change. If the Canadian Supreme Court adjudicates the criminal activities in Thailand of someone born in Mexico, then I guess Canadian citizenship is a flag of convenience.

To which government, in 2070, will your grandchildren or great-grandchildren owe allegiance? And to which "government" will they pay their taxes? Where do they pay taxes now?

In strictly practical terms, this idea of "nationalist" strikes me as simplistic. (Is it a question of language? Religion? Dhimmitude?)

The measure of the success of a society or a country is not voter turn-out. The measure of a civilized society is tax compliance - when a person pays taxes, that's the ultimate vote in favour of government.

Cool. Okay, I'll agree to doubling immigration then. As long as they all go to Quebec. You happy with that, August? None of the immigrants will be selected for their French language abilities, and they won't be forced to follow any kind of dumbass nationalistic Quebec cultural laws either. Possibly the Francophone nature and culture of Quebec will be destroyed, but hey, who cares? That's just nationalism, right? A simplistic thing.

You're always a defender of immigration, August, and dismissive of cultural concerns - except when it comes to your little corner of the world and it's nationalistic cultural concerns.