Did Conservatives actually cut Women's programs?

[DrGreenthumb]

A woman I knew had only one child, the birth was horrendous both for her and her husband so there were no more. She always said that all families would only have one child if the husband had to birth the first one. Nurses get a big kick out of looking after men who have stones to pass, no sympathy from them. The comment is women experience that all the time having babies. It is always easiest to tell other people what they should do, there has been a lot of promotion lately for poor fathers who can't get their children or who are left with them. Women have been doing that forever.

The womens groups were formed out the horrendous treatment of the woman in Alberta whose husband threw her off the ranch she had worked on for 25 years with nothing. At that time it was his right and men have never forgiven women for claiming better treatment.

I hope you are not condoning that kind of mentality. I wonder how people would react to male nurses "getting a big kick" out of a woman's birthing pains? I am all for equal rights but men-hating militant feminist beliefs are pretty out there on a lot of things.

I can actually see some people that call themselves "feminists" actually enjoying a man's pain, especially if it is emanating from that evil penis of his. That's pretty twisted.

[Michael Bluth]

I hope you are not condoning that kind of mentality. I wonder how people would react to male nurses "getting a big kick" out of a woman's birthing pains? I am all for equal rights but men-hating militant feminist beliefs are pretty out there on a lot of things. I can actually see some people that call themselves "feminists" actually enjoying a man's pain, especially if it is emanating from that evil penis of his. That's pretty twisted.

Enjoying the physical pain of any given group is quite twisted.

I don't think any credible group argues this.

[Kitchener]

I am all for equal rights but

Careful, now. That's a bit of a red flag. I'm all for equal rights, BUT... ?

Let's make sure that whatever follows the conjunction, whether we're talking race, gender, age, or ability, is not just a veiled way of saying, "not too much of it" or "unless it rocks the boat" or "unless it impinges on my privilege." Whatever reservation or qualification we ever want to append to an expression of equality had better be sensible and well-supported by evidence, I'm sure you agree.

...men-hating militant feminist beliefs are pretty out there on a lot of things.

Fair enough. Who exactly are these man-hating feminists? What, exactly, are the man-hating things they say and do? Do they occupy positions of power?

And what makes them "militant"? I find it curious, the way that "militant" has become this automatic prefix to "feminist", as if calling someone a feminist makes it a free shot to call them militant as well. What specific acts of militancy by specific people on specific dates do you have in mind?

I can actually see some people that call themselves "feminists" actually enjoying a man's pain, especially if it is emanating from that evil penis of his. That's pretty twisted.

That would indeed be twisted. Since you can see this clearly enough to assert it, would you mind just posting or linking to the evidence you have in mind as establishing its truth?

Thanks.

[MontyBurns]

I cry my eyes out thinking about the feminists having their funding cut. I mean, we were so close to the dream of gender "equality".

[jefferiah]

Careful, now. That's a bit of a red flag. I'm all for equal rights, BUT... ?

Who says that the SoW holds the monopoly on equality? So basically you are saying one cannot believe in equality without placing full belief in the Advisory Council.

The Advisory Council was getting over 20 million and Harper cut 5 million from that, because, like alot of special interest groups they aren't always good in output as they are in receiving input. Someone here mentioned the councils funding of feminist groups which it deems fit. Check out the website for the BC Pro Choice Action network. They are sufficiently wierd enough to draw some concern. And the tax dollars which fund the SoW fund the BC Pro Choice Action Network. Also someone mentioned something about their funding of ridiculous studies, like the one about women in natural disasters. C'mon that is just crap. And its not like Harper destroyed the Crapheads, who successfully fool useful idiots into thinking that they are one with Equality. He cut 5 million from it.

Edited January 2, 2008 by jefferiah

[Kitchener]

Careful, now. That's a bit of a red flag. I'm all for equal rights, BUT... ?

Who says that the SoW holds the monopoly on equality? So basically you are saying one cannot believe in equality without placing full belief in the Advisory Council.

How you managed to reach this remarkable conclusion from what I wrote is beyond me.

[jefferiah]

How you managed to reach this remarkable conclusion from what I wrote is beyond me.

Basically that is where you are going. That is where the logic leads you. Someone says I am all for equality, but....I wont support this or that, and you refer to that as some sort of red flag, as if that is something to be concerned about. That's ridiculous.

The SoW does little, and they use the fact that they are a Women's Group to make it look horrible when someone tries to make cuts. I could change my name to "TRUTH JUSTICE and LIBERTY" and when anyone disagrees with me I could say that they don't agree with "TRUTH JUSTICE and LIBERTY".

[jefferiah]

The womens groups were formed out the horrendous treatment of the woman in Alberta whose husband threw her off the ranch she had worked on for 25 years with nothing. At that time it was his right and men have never forgiven women for claiming better treatment.

And Unions were formed out of poor working conditions. That does not make them infallible. That does not make it right when you have 5 people doing the job of one person and making it last round the clock, all the while receiving good pay and benefits and then going on strike and threatening people who need money and are happy to work harder for less.