jbg Posted January 1, 2008 Report Posted January 1, 2008 And as I said, it looks like Bush is leaning towards signing the Lieberman-Warner bill which will include carbon trading credits. You consider it hare-brained but here it is: a possible U.S. response to the issue.It seems Harper's response has been not to commit to any targets and avoid doing anything on the subject. It is hare-brained and I doubt it will pass. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Keepitsimple Posted January 2, 2008 Report Posted January 2, 2008 (edited) I have read all that and the 2012 goals are not irrelevant. They are what was promised in the first global warming conferences and those goals will be met and exceeded. I don't think anyone said the Europeans are saints but they will meet the 2012 goals.What legislation are you referring to in Canada in terms of commitments? I don't think you looked at the individual European countries' performance - it's quite obvious that the large majority have failed to reduce their emissions over the last 7-10 years. It's clear as a bell that their major reductions came in the 90's because of the economic downturn caused by the fall of communism. And to answer your question, there is no legislation in place for any country. The UK may be the first to do so but the bill is not passed yet, to my knowledge. Their goal by the way, is 60% by 2050 - that's the date that is deemed to be rediculously far in the future, according to our opposition parties and environmentalists. Since the UK's goal was already 12.5% by 2008, that means their actual reduction goal (from today) is 48.5% - again - if it passes. The bill does not say how it will be accomplished. Sound familiar? Can you not at least acknowledge that perhaps the choice of 1990 by the Europeans was plausibly self-serving? If approved, the UK will become the first country to set such a long-range, significant and binding carbon reduction target into law.[2] Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdo...ate_Change_Bill Edited January 2, 2008 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
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