Topaz Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 The former Pakistani general, car dealer, who scammed both the Libs and the Cons is gone from Parliament. Harper should check how many former car dealers he got in his cabinet, I know of another one. Election Canada has said he over spent on his election and the Libs say there are more in the Cons party from the last election, Khan's dated back to 2004. Khan was also the guy who Harper trusted with his views on the Afg. war. Quote
southerncomfort Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 So it's Harper's fault that Amid might be charged for something he did back in 2004 as a Liberal, boy talk about spin... Not to mention the NDP http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/sto...n-expenses.html people in glass houses and all that. Quote
Wild Bill Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 So it's Harper's fault that Amid might be charged for something he did back in 2004 as a Liberal, boy talk about spin...Not to mention the NDP http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/sto...n-expenses.html people in glass houses and all that. Why not? The same folks would pin Mulroney's scandal on Harper, when Harper came from the party that was born as a reaction AGAINST Mulroney and his party! Once again it's "hockey team" politics. If I can make your team look bad then mine must be good. I support my team through thick and thin, regardless of how they actually fare in the standings. The truth of course is that ALL parties have their faults! All parties should be measured ONLY by those actions for which they're TRULY responsible! Simply throwing muck hoping something will stick shows you run on blind faith and not objective reason, like a "scientist" who believes his premise FIRST and then hunts for an experiment to prove it, ignoring anything he trips across that shows he was wrong in the first place! All parties LOVE these kinds of supporters! There were always a few that still sent money to Jim and Tammy Fae Baker... Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Topaz Posted November 24, 2007 Author Report Posted November 24, 2007 So it's Harper's fault that Amid might be charged for something he did back in 2004 as a Liberal, boy talk about spin...Not to mention the NDP http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/sto...n-expenses.html people in glass houses and all that. Yes , Harper gang should have checked the guy out. Any party that accept a person from another party should check their background. I would have. He's a former car sales man, how much would you trust him? Quote
Drea Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 (edited) He's a former car sales man, how much would you trust him? Yup all people in sales are corrupt individuals. Fer shur. Does his being a car salesperson really have anything to do with his expenses being investigated? .... Unless he bribed people by providing them with vehicles... and from the article, this doesn't seem to be the case. Edited November 24, 2007 by Drea Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
Visionseeker Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 The former Pakistani general, car dealer, who scammed both the Libs and the Cons is gone from Parliament. Harper should check how many former car dealers he got in his cabinet, I know of another one. Election Canada has said he over spent on his election and the Libs say there are more in the Cons party from the last election, Khan's dated back to 2004. Khan was also the guy who Harper trusted with his views on the Afg. war. Yes, the Conservatives should’ve been more careful before welcoming him to their camp and, more importantly, giving him profile (e.g. Special Advisor for Middle Eastern and South Asian Affairs). Not exercising due diligence in vetting your representatives calls into question judgment and competence. However this event isn’t all that serious in the larger scheme of things. Besides, his origins as a Liberal prevent that party from even remotely trying to profit from these developments. If anything, the opposition parties could try to oblique the issue to revisit the question of Khan’s “Grand Tour” and subsequent report of his “findings” to the PM. But even here I think the embarrassment potential is minimal. Quote
Fortunata Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 Does it surprise anyone that Khan is in violation of election rules? It wouldn't surprise me if he was selling out to another country. He is probably the sleaziest appearing politician there is right now. Oh, Joe Volpe, you've been bested!! Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted November 24, 2007 Report Posted November 24, 2007 Does it surprise anyone that Khan is in violation of election rules? It wouldn't surprise me if he was selling out to another country. He is probably the sleaziest appearing politician there is right now. Oh, Joe Volpe, you've been bested!! Don't hand out the awards yet......your short memory has left out others in the running. Stronach Blair Wilson Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
Muddy Posted November 25, 2007 Report Posted November 25, 2007 Yes , Harper gang should have checked the guy out. Any party that accept a person from another party should check their background. I would have. He's a former car sales man, how much would you trust him? He was elected to Parliament as a Liberal! Surely the fault must also lay at the feet of the liberals equally by your reasoning. Maybe the Harper government should be checking out more liberal candidates! I mean ,it is your suggestion. Spin ,spin spin. Quote
Fortunata Posted November 25, 2007 Report Posted November 25, 2007 He was elected to Parliament as a Liberal! Surely the fault must also lay at the feet of the liberals equally by your reasoning. Maybe the Harper government should be checking out more liberal candidates! I mean ,it is your suggestion. Spin ,spin spin. Maybe Steve should have checked Khan out BEFORE he accepted him into the folds. But Khan, a provincial PC, expediently running as a Liberal in a traditional Liberal riding, would have been more than acceptable to make needed political points, i.e. anything to embarrass the Liberals. Moral of the story: a weasel is a weasel is a weasel no matter what colour he is wearing. Quote
Martin Chriton Posted November 26, 2007 Report Posted November 26, 2007 (edited) Ugh another Liberal caught Edited November 26, 2007 by Martin Chriton Quote
Belle Geste Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 (edited) As the news begins to leak out, it appears that this case is more complex than an ugly liberal or an ugly conservative. The web and blogs are saying that this arose from money loaned by Khan's Mazda dealership to the liberal riding association - to the tune of about $ 175,000 or so. Khan crossed the floor. Seems some of the others did as well. The liberal riding association did not file their Elections Canada financial statements. They were delisted. It appears new people came into control of the liberal riding association and filed to regain listing. In the filings, the loans were stated as contributions to the party riding, not as loans. Somehow this "contribution" concept was leaked to the NDP who are now trying to make hay of the issue and draw both the liberals and conservatives into a mud match. The difference of "loans" versus "contributions" is a major point. If it is deemed by Elections Canada that these were contributions, then Khan and/or someone is in trouble as exceeding the allowable level. This is the issue that the NDP bring forth and want criminal charges to remove Khan from that riding for the next election. If these are indeed loans, then they must be paid back to the loaner - Khan's dealership. That would leave the riding association broke. It looks as though that riding association was out of cash at the beginning when Khan came on board as a liberal candidate and he financed his running through the loan or contribution process. According to the Elections Canada website, all the numbers are there and this was the 2004 & 2006 election period. If they are contributions, then no repayment is required and the local riding association is flush with a cash war chest and Khan is out of politics. If the money is a loan, then the riding is must repay the loan leaving them broke, the filing officer of the riding will be questioned and Khan and his conservatives have another pocketful of bullets to shot at the liberals. The NDP have no down side on this issue. Either outcome, someone is painted with dirt. Edited November 30, 2007 by Belle Geste Quote
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