when will Canadians vote to ratify a constitution?

[no queenslave]

http:www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/electionindex.htm

Do we need the U.S. to help us ; like they did in Iraq?

Canadian people have never ratified a constitution. The governing of Canada since the Statute of westminster has been by fraud and corruption of politicians who just assumed power without any right to do so by the sovereign people of Canada.

[M.Dancer]

Would the mod please merge this spam with the other spam.

[no queenslave]

Would the mod please merge this spam with the other spam.

Just as I suspected; you think the people of Canada have no rights. Dictators operate that way.

You are the one with government spam; is that your second can?

[AngusThermopyle]

The Queenslave, could we please give this a rest? It's becoming very tedious and you do yourself a great disservice by these posts. In effect you are making people think somewhat less than charitable thoughts about you.

[no queenslave]

The Queenslave, could we please give this a rest? It's becoming very tedious and you do yourself a great disservice by these posts. In effect you are making people think somewhat less than charitable thoughts about you.

Why don't you give it a rest? You can not even admit the fact that Canadians have never ratified a constitution by a referendum; like the people in Iraq . Only supporters of a corrupt government do not want to admit that their country is not a democracy; but in practice a police state.How many more years of government denial? When Iraq became a democracy what happened to the old government; they did not continue as the government, did they; why?Why in Canada did the government continued to govern as if Canada was still a colony? Where is the new constitution and new government? Same old colonial rulers with a queen.

Edited November 22, 2007 by no queenslave

[Wild Bill]

Why don't you give it a rest? You can not even admit the fact that Canadians have never ratified a constitution by a referendum; like the people in Iraq . Only supporters of a corrupt government do not want to admit that their country is not a democracy; but in practice a police state.How many more years of government denial? When Iraq became a democracy what happened to the old government; they did not continue as the government, did they; why?Why in Canada did the government continued to govern as if Canada was still a colony? Where is the new constitution and new government? Same old colonial rulers with a queen.

How old are you? Enough to have been around when Trudeau put us through all that crap?

I remember all of it - mainly because I didn't think we needed a formal constitution and resented my country being changed in that way. I still think it was a mistake.

Now you come along and say it never happened?

Down the memory hole, Winston Smith!

[no queenslave]

How old are you? Enough to have been around when Trudeau put us through all that crap?

I remember all of it - mainly because I didn't think we needed a formal constitution and resented my country being changed in that way. I still think it was a mistake.

Now you come along and say it never happened?

Down the memory hole, Winston Smith!

What Trudeau did was crap. What part do you remember- that it was never passed? So if you have no formal constitution what governs the power of the government as to what they can do; become a dictatorship? NOTHWITHSTANDING. Edited November 22, 2007 by no queenslave

[Leafless]

http:www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/electionindex.htm

Do we need the U.S. to help us ; like they did in Iraq?

Canadian people have never ratified a constitution. The governing of Canada since the Statute of westminster has been by fraud and corruption of politicians who just assumed power without any right to do so by the sovereign people of Canada.

So, what must do we do to realign our current dysfunctional political system to include a ratified constitution?

I can think of nothing short of a revolution.

[no queenslave]

So, what must do we do to realign our current dysfunctional political system to include a ratified constitution?

I can think of nothing short of a revolution.

we need to stop the government propaganda education system from indoctrinating the people to believe we have a constitution and have a democratic government.

After 70 years of government lies it will take some time to get the people to understand what a democracy is. Maybe we should ask the Iraq people how they got their democratic government- by a referendum of the people?

If a democracy can be created by the same people who were in power before a countries independence can remain in power, with the same powers; after a country declares its a democratic government of a sovereign country ; then why was it not done in IRAQ?

[capricorn]

You know noqueen, with your demonstrated passion for the non-existence of a Constitution and your aversion to income tax, you should either form a political party or run for office, or both. The members of this forum are now fully informed of your views. You really should try to widen your audience which is why I suggest public office. Even the Rhino party is making a comeback. There's plenty of room in the political arena.

[no queenslave]

You know noqueen, with your demonstrated passion for the non-existence of a Constitution and your aversion to income tax, you should either form a political party or run for office, or both. The members of this forum are now fully informed of your views. You really should try to widen your audience which is why I suggest public office. Even the Rhino party is making a comeback. There's plenty of room in the political arena.

And how many politicians in Saddam's government changed it to a democratic government ?

Running for office in a dictatorship has never resulted in changing that government to a democracy; and the same applies to Canada.

It is just informing the people of their right to write and ratify a constitution by a referendum that is required. What dictatorship is willing to give up the powers it assumed ? When will you understand that Canadian politicians do not want the people to tell them what powers they should have? They want all the power they can assume by whatever means; including an education system to indoctrinate you.

[capricorn]

Running for office in a dictatorship has never resulted in changing that government to a democracy; and the same applies to Canada.

Well that shoots down my idea.

[no queenslave]

Well that shoots down my idea.

When Canadians write and ratify a constitution the politicians will swear allegiance to the constitution, not a former colonial ruler. Do the American politicians swear to uphold and obey their constitution-why not some old woman like Canadian politicians?.

Because they have a democratic government and we have an old colonial government.

[jawapunk]

How do you figure a dictatorship? A multi-party dictatorship? Who is the dictator...usually they are the ones who use the armed forces to stay in power...Funny how many changes in government we've had with absoultely no use of force whatsoever.

Maybe you mean Canada is an oligarchy, I'm not sure. Do you feel disenfranchised in some way. What about the Canadian constitution as aligned in the constitution and the charter of rights and freedoms do you dislike? Would you NOT ratify these again if you could?

I agree we are not in a true democracy, we are in a representative democracy, where we elect officials to enact legislation on our behalfs. Not sure why you are stuck on the Statute of Westminister, maybe you should start your own country because no one here seems to care.

[no queenslave]

How do you figure a dictatorship? A multi-party dictatorship? Who is the dictator...usually they are the ones who use the armed forces to stay in power...Funny how many changes in government we've had with absoultely no use of force whatsoever.

Maybe you mean Canada is an oligarchy, I'm not sure. Do you feel disenfranchised in some way. What about the Canadian constitution as aligned in the constitution and the charter of rights and freedoms do you dislike? Would you NOT ratify these again if you could?

I agree we are not in a true democracy, we are in a representative democracy, where we elect officials to enact legislation on our behalfs. Not sure why you are stuck on the Statute of Westminister, maybe you should start your own country because no one here seems to care.

All you have to do is go to tax court and see for yourself the charter of rights does not apply.

The government says you are guilty ; and it is up to the people to sue the queen -government ,to prove some corrupt government slave has wrongfully assessed you. Nothwithstanding your charter rights- you have none in tax court. Have you ever tried to use your charter rights ; or witnessed any person who has tried to in tax court.? If you haven't you have no clue what goes on in this country. If the government can control you financially are you not a slave?

so why did you post if you do not care?

[no queenslave]

http://www.afghangovernment.com/constitution1990html

article 66

(9) a maximum of 50 persons from among prominent political,scientific,social and religious figures to br APPOINTED by the president.

How many persons does the Canadian government appoint ; to all kinds of government positions? All judges to the supreme court; which is used to maintain the governments in power, no matter which party ; as is demonstrated by politicians going from one party to another, playing the con game you have a democracy.

[Posit]

http://www.afghangovernment.com/constitution1990html

article 66

(9) a maximum of 50 persons from among prominent political,scientific,social and religious figures to br APPOINTED by the president.

How many persons does the Canadian government appoint ; to all kinds of government positions? All judges to the supreme court; which is used to maintain the governments in power, no matter which party ; as is demonstrated by politicians going from one party to another, playing the con game you have a democracy.

There is no purpose in any Canadians pledging and signing a constitution, since all they would be doing is confirming their entrenched corporate slavery. Canada is NOT a country or a nation in any legal sens. It is nothing more than a Crown corporation, under the jurisdiction of the Queen. Before we could even contemplate a constitution, we would have to have a revolution to free ourselves from the slavery we have been burdened with.

[no queenslave]

There is no purpose in any Canadians pledging and signing a constitution, since all they would be doing is confirming their entrenched corporate slavery. Canada is NOT a country or a nation in any legal sens. It is nothing more than a Crown corporation, under the jurisdiction of the Queen. Before we could even contemplate a constitution, we would have to have a revolution to free ourselves from the slavery we have been burdened with.

That is what the Statute of Westminster did. It gave us our freedom and sovereignty; if we ever wanted it. But the government has fooled the people to believe that they already have a democracy with a constitution.. You are right what we have is a crown corp in the name of the queen; with dictoral sovereign powers , and the politicians are just dummies, figerheads doing what they are told to do.. tax you , tax you. give me your money , i know what is best for you.

[no queenslave]

maybe when Harper gets back from suspending Pakistan from the commonwealth.

Note the members can not kick some country out of their membership; just suspend them.What a dumb club.Dictators allowed.

[jbg]

Would the mod please merge this spam with the other spam.

M.Dancer, this is a meritorious thread and not spam.

While he's at it, I'd like him to produce vote tallies from the original 13 states, and the then Republic of Vermont, relating to ratification of the US Constitution.

[jbg]

The Queenslave, could we please give this a rest? It's becoming very tedious and you do yourself a great disservice by these posts. In effect you are making people think somewhat less than charitable thoughts about you.

Quite the contrary, I think he should run for Liberal Party leader.

[no queenslave]

M.Dancer, this is a meritorious thread and not spam.

While he's at it, I'd like him to produce vote tallies from the original 13 states, and the then Republic of Vermont, relating to ratification of the US Constitution.

For masterFor masters in political science.

http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o...of_Independance

As you must know the U.S. was not part of the Statute of Westminster and the comparisons do not apply.

Each state had its own government powers prior to the ratification of the U.S. Constitution- it's amendment.

Canadian politicians tried to use an amendment to ratify the canadian constitution and failed.

The american amendment was was the legal way for them.

In Canadas case the Statute of westminster changed everything.

[Keepitsimple]

No Queenslave:

Isn't it nice that this country that you seem to hate so much, and is apparently run by dictators and has no constitution - still has the freedom to offer you a platform for your curious rantings? The price of freedom can indeed be very irritating at times - but if we didn't have people like to to express differing views, perhaps we wouldn't understand how truly fortunate we are to live in a country like Canada.

[no queenslave]

No Queenslave:

Isn't it nice that this country that you seem to hate so much, and is apparently run by dictators and has no constitution - still has the freedom to offer you a platform for your curious rantings? The price of freedom can indeed be very irritating at times - but if we didn't have people like to to express differing views, perhaps we wouldn't understand how truly fortunate we are to live in a country like Canada.

As long as you do as the government says; and as long as you believe the government propaganda.

Go to federal tax court and then report back.

Federal personal income tax is a form of slavery-control practiced by a corrupt federal government.I don't hate the country ; just the way the politicians opperat.

[jbg]

No Queenslave:

Isn't it nice that this country that you seem to hate so much, and is apparently run by dictators and has no constitution - still has the freedom to offer you a platform for your curious rantings? The price of freedom can indeed be very irritating at times - but if we didn't have people like to to express differing views, perhaps we wouldn't understand how truly fortunate we are to live in a country like Canada.

Great point.