Sex Abuse at Oprah's South African School

[kengs333]

A very shocking and disturbing story, one that probably would not have been reported in the media had the school not been connected with such a celebrity as Oprah.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/st...2205787,00.html

[Borg]

Ho hum.

Rich lady builds school - looks good in foreign country - finds out some teacher is diddling the students - and is surprized?

Lots of strange things happen in third world countries - she will clean it up and get over it.

Worse things in the world happen and do not make the back page of the want ads.

Time to move on.

Borg

[kengs333]

Ho hum.

Rich lady builds school - looks good in foreign country - finds out some teacher is diddling the students - and is surprized?

Lots of strange things happen in third world countries - she will clean it up and get over it.

Worse things in the world happen and do not make the back page of the want ads.

Time to move on.

Borg

No, this is actually an important incident; one that will no doubt be swept under the carpet by the media and not reported as it should be when they do have to deal with it.

[Moxie]

It's not surprising really, Opera opens a school in Africa deems what females are "FIT" to attend said school and then culls the Africian culture out of these children by forcing them to wear western uniforms and teach western style programs. IF she were really interested in these females' future she'd of allowed them to learn and glorify their culture not her Western Black version. These children have been victimized twice, in my opinion.

[sharkman]

Nonsense, giving these children an education will give them opportunities they could never dream of, even possibly serving their own people as President, or Prime Minister. Or they could remain uneducated and live in poverty, drinking bad water until they die at age nine.

Funny, though, how the MSM gives her a pass on this. We would get a face full of coverage, however, if she happened to be a republican senator or a priest.

[guyser]

Nonsense, giving these children an education will give them opportunities they could never dream of, even possibly serving their own people as President, or Prime Minister. Or they could remain uneducated and live in poverty, drinking bad water until they die at age nine.

This I cannot argue. Spot on.

Funny, though, how the MSM gives her a pass on this. We would get a face full of coverage, however, if she happened to be a republican senator or a priest.

So far off it aint funny. If it were a Rep or a priest it would be them doing the crime.jk

A pass? Headlines around the world?

She paid for the entire school, had staff hired and allowed them to proliferate. She found about tha abuse allegations and she makes changes.

Now they each have a cell phone w her number in it to call should this happen again.

She went before the media and assumed all responsibility .

Some pass.

[sharkman]

I'm sorry, I guess I missed the part where Oprah got fired and arrested. A shame too, she does a lot of good, it's too bad they railroaded her like they did that radio talk show host who utttered the phrase, " Nappy headed hoes" whatever nappy headed means.

So the pressure has been mounting for Oprah, eh? After a few days, the media didn't die down, that's when they started calling for her job. The sponsors all yanked their ads from her show due to all of the protest, like with Dog the Bounty Hunter show. One taped phoned call in which he utters the word nigger repeatedly and his show gets yanked. Good thing Oprah at least gets treated like anyone else involved with such scandal.

Oh, wait a minute, she didn't get arrested did she. Or get her show yanked for heading an organization in which children were sexually assaulted. She gets treated differently, face it. For merely saying PC incorrect things, those examples I gave have lost their incomes and jobs. IMO, Oprah's situation is worse, if she was a republican senator or a priest, she'd have hell to face.

Personally, I don't think she should face hell, but there are clearly two standards in play.

[Riverwind]

Personally, I don't think she should face hell, but there are clearly two standards in play.

Excuse me? What exactly did Oprah do other than hire a someone who turned out to be a criminal? All of the other examples you gave are situations were the celebrity involved was guilty of something and they paid the price.

[sharkman]

SHE PERSONALLY DID NOTHING WRONG. My point is if she were a republican senator or a priest, the fact that she personally did noting wrong would not matter.

Do you per chance remember Kathy Griffin(I think) from the Regis show. She had contracted a line of clothes to be manufactured, and it turned out there was child labour involved. The media absolutely hounded her, even though she personally did nothing wrong, but that did not matter to them. But Oprah is given a double standard.

[Guest coot]

Kathie Lee Gifford. Though Kathy Griffin would be funny on Live with Regis.

[Shakeyhands]

Funny, though, how the MSM gives her a pass on this. We would get a face full of coverage, however, if she happened to be a republican senator or a priest.

Its been non stop Oprah coverage since this started, you were kidding right?

[cybercoma]

Sad thing here is that most people are ready to point the finger at Oprah, yet very few, if any, people know the name of the actual pedophile.

[Guest American Woman]

Oprah seems to be doing all that she can to deal with this-- flying there herself, providing counselling for the girls, encouraging them to come forth with their sex abuse claims. The female teacher wasn't the only one arrested.

"Other school employees have also been implicated in misconduct. The state prosecutor, Alta Nieuwoudt, described the allegations as 'very serious'."

Oprah said that "the screening process of employees had been inadequate."

That admission could be of significance.

Link

[AngusThermopyle]

It's not surprising really, Opera opens a school in Africa deems what females are "FIT" to attend said school and then culls the Africian culture out of these children by forcing them to wear western uniforms and teach western style programs. IF she were really interested in these females' future she'd of allowed them to learn and glorify their culture not her Western Black version. These children have been victimized twice, in my opinion.

Oh-oh! sounds like Oprah is starting her very own Residential School program. Part of her nefarious plan to commit genocide against the African people no doubt.

Well, she'll pay for that in the future.

P.S. Perhaps she only wants to cull the africian culture from them so she can instill some African culture in its place.

[kengs333]

Sad thing here is that most people are ready to point the finger at Oprah, yet very few, if any, people know the name of the actual pedophile.

Pedophile? I think most of the victims were 12-14 years old, aren't they?

[Shakeyhands]

Sad thing here is that most people are ready to point the finger at Oprah, yet very few, if any, people know the name of the actual pedophile.

Who's blaming her?

[Rue]

The assumption that Oprah was imposing Western culture on these students is 100% bull. Uniforms by the way have been a staple in third world country schools long before Oprah was born. It comes about precisely because they are not Western, i.e., they can't afford an unlimited wardrobe. As for the curriculum, if some bothered to find out what it was they would realize it is not based on imposing any Western values.

More to the point suggesting Oprah Winfrey is culpable or stating if she was a Republican she would be treated worse is sheer and utter nonsense. It has nothing to do with the issue.

The issue is a teacher in a same gender school has engaged in pedophilia and used her power from being a teacher and her access from being a teacher to engage in it. Opportunity, access and power balance is what pedophilia is all about. This can and does happen anywhere in any institution where such conditions exist.

It has nothing to do with Oprah or her being rich and to suggest it does just does not get it-sort of like Keung who from the question he asked shows he doesn't have a clue what pedophilia is in the first place suggesting from his question the molestation of 12 and 14 year olds would not make it pedophilia.

Oprah did a good thing in starting the school. She has nothing to apologize for. The woman herself was molested. She is being accountable.

If there has been abuse of power it will come out in spite of some idiots in this world who think it happens because people are rich or they are not pedophiles oh no they were gays right Keung? Its part of that gay conspiracy right Keung? Isn't that where you are headed?

This issue will be resolved, the pedophile prosecuted and these children will heal precisely because she was accountable unlike say the Catholic Church. Christian Monks or the Canadian government who ran the forced assimilation units that molested, and deliberatelyexposed aboriginal children to tb in Canada pursuing a policy of forced assimilation by child abduction.

Edited November 9, 2007 by Rue

[kengs333]

It has nothing to do with Oprah or her being rich and to suggest it does just does not get it-sort of like Keung who from the question he asked shows he doesn't have a clue what pedophilia is in the first place suggesting from his question the molestation of 12 and 14 year olds would not make it pedophilia.

So a woman engaging in sex acts with 12-14 year old girls is pedophile, but gay men who engage in "man-boy love" (pederasty) with 12-14 year old boys are not pedophiles???

[sharkman]

More to the point suggesting Oprah Winfrey is culpable or stating if she was a Republican she would be treated worse is sheer and utter nonsense. It has nothing to do with the issue.

It has nothing to do with Oprah or her being rich and to suggest it does just does not get it-sort of like Keung who from the question he asked shows he doesn't have a clue what pedophilia is in the first place suggesting from his question the molestation of 12 and 14 year olds would not make it pedophilia.

This issue will be resolved, the pedophile prosecuted and these children will heal precisely because she was accountable unlike say the Catholic Church. Christian Monks or the Canadian government who ran the forced assimilation units that molested, and deliberatelyexposed aboriginal children to tb in Canada pursuing a policy of forced assimilation by child abduction.

I don't know if I got my point across, or if it would matter to you, but to repeat myself, if Oprah was a republican SENATOR, she would be nailed to the wall, don't kid yourself. And she would be just as innocent of the crimes committed, but it would't matter to the Media or rabid Dems. Moore would probably make a "documentary" about it. As to the Catholic church, they are slowly becoming accountable, regardless of the Bishops (or whatever they are) who have tried to keep sweeping this under the carpet.

I have no idea if your claim about the Canadian government is accurate, but it sure sounds dirty.

Edited November 10, 2007 by sharkman

[guyser]

I don't know if I got my point across, or if it would matter to you, but to repeat myself, if Oprah was a republican SENATOR, she would be nailed to the wall, don't kid yourself. And she would be just as innocent of the crimes committed, but it would't matter to the Media or rapid Dems. Moore would probably make a "documentary" about it.

Then one could assume you have an example of which you speak?

If not then it is just speculative.

Besides, you said she is innocent, as would a Rep Senator.

[kengs333]

So a woman engaging in sex acts with 12-14 year old girls is pedophile, but gay men who engage in "man-boy love" (pederasty) with 12-14 year old boys are not pedophiles???

Geez, nobody wants to clarify this? Didn't this person also have a lesbian relationship with a 23 year old person connected with the school? Like I said, the media won't cover this story the way it should be...

Edited November 12, 2007 by kengs333

[guyser]

Geex, nobody wants to clarify this? Didn't this person also have a lesbian relationship with a 23 year old person connected with the school? Like I said, the media won't cover this story the way it should be...

Which is.......................?