Canada should take lesson from US

Topaz · October 26, 2007

Canada is spending millions over in Afghanistan and the US spent millions in the electricity which has been destroyed by the war. IN the New York Times, they are saying Iraqi gov't have signed agreements with Iran and China to build enormous powerplants for the price of 1.1Bil. The military doesn't like the fact of this happening and I wonder what the reaction Bush has. Iran and Iraq seem to be getting on fine, but I'm sure the president with get a call from Bush asking what in the Hel* he thinks he's doing!! It makes Bush look some what bad about this view of Iran and the nukes. If he pushed too far maybe the Iraq gov't will say ok its time to go and Bush has always said if the US was asked to leave they would go! Now Canada, can be in the same situation when it comes to spending millions and billions over there before the war is under control. How much of the money gets to the people?

old_bold&cold · October 26, 2007

You need to first stop yourself from making bigger mistakes, and do some thinking.

Who is in control of the mission in Afghanistan?

The correct answer is NATO. We are only there under NATO and we do take our mission from that same source.

The USA are in Afghanistan by control of?

This time the answer is NATO and their own seperate forces operating outside of NATO.

The USA is also going to reduce troops in Iraq by next fall, and those troops will probably go into the afghan war effort, to finally finish what was started.

As much as Bush does not like it when countries make deals with countries that he sees as bad. He really can not do much about it. He still has some leaway with Iraq and Afghanistan, but he really is crippled by his political foes from doing much more. Of course he will never admit that, but he really has to beg now for money for what already is being done and it seems that he will not get blanket funds anymore, so he really is penned in when it comes to starting new wars.

Canada's role in Afghanistan has been combat mostly in the south for the last two years, and yes it would like to pull back from that and do more support in the rebuilding effort. But that is controlled by NATO, and it looks like NATO has already started to push others for releasing troops to rotate Canada out of combat. I would imagine that by the time our troop have been there till Feb 2009, there will be a solid plan to have either have already moved them out or will be moved shortly near that time. But I would guess Harper is again setting up the opposition for a down fall, knowing all this is in the works and just playing hs cards to his chest, waiting for the filibusters and all kinds of threats, before he shows that it is all solved and make the others look like stupid rabid dogs.

If you want to follow the NATO mission you need to go to their site and then take what they speak about and think about how that really plays out. Hell, if worst comes to worst, the USA can take 2,500 troops of the 120,000 they will remove from Iraq and rotate Canada to the back end. But it would be better optics for the NATO to do that.

As for the cost of this goes, it will be money well spent if it even slows the flow of extremist Islam at all.

Topaz · October 26, 2007

Fighting the war is one thing, giving money to a country that is known to be corrupt within is another. It doesn't seem the money is getting to the people because it has been reported on the TV that there are people starving. Everyone know as along as Harper is PM, he'll keep the troops there until he says so the point is, who will stay longer, the troops in Afghanistan or Harper as PM????

geoffrey · October 27, 2007

Fighting the war is one thing, giving money to a country that is known to be corrupt within is another.

We should end all African and Central American aid? Excellent Topaz, your truly becoming a conservative everyday.

Topaz · October 28, 2007

We should end all African and Central American aid? Excellent Topaz, your truly becoming a conservative everyday.

Well, I did vote for Mulroney but the second time was a mistake! I didn't say we should end it, I think we should KNOW exactly the money is going where is suppose to go...to the people. I've read reports that the corrupt gov't has all the money that countries has given it and little has gone to the people!

timmtc · October 29, 2007

Well, I did vote for Mulroney but the second time was a mistake! I didn't say we should end it, I think we should KNOW exactly the money is going where is suppose to go...to the people. I've read reports that the corrupt gov't has all the money that countries has given it and little has gone to the people!

That's true, but it doesn't warrent the complete withdrawl from Afghanistan. The money given to the Afghan Gov't that was misused, was misused because they had no institutions in Afghanistan who could pay police, doctors, and other essential staff. NATO is making an effort to build these institutions, and the corruption is on the mend.

geoffrey · October 29, 2007

I've read reports that the corrupt gov't has all the money that countries has given it and little has gone to the people!

Your absolutely right.

The difference is that there are Canadians in Afghanistan today that are trying to improve accountability and straighten things out. When we send blank cheques care of Bono to Africa, there is no oversight or anything, most of it buys Mugabe a new car or a diesel rock.

Your money is much better looked after in Afghanistan than likely any other aid destination.

Topaz · October 29, 2007

Your absolutely right.
The difference is that there are Canadians in Afghanistan today that are trying to improve accountability and straighten things out. When we send blank cheques care of Bono to Africa, there is no oversight or anything, most of it buys Mugabe a new car or a diesel rock.

Your money is much better looked after in Afghanistan than likely any other aid destination.

Well, I hope you are right but I don't think its that simple. On TV, they were talking about Iraq and how much money the US has spent and they said one of the minister was able to get 1BILLION $$ for himself before anyone knew about! One of the legion magazines had a report about Afghanistan and it rebuilding and it was that impressive.