kuzadd Posted October 9, 2007 Report Posted October 9, 2007 http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3673585&page=1 The Topps Meat Co.'s massive frozen hamburger beef recall has many shoppers worried about the safety of their meat, after it may have sickened 25 people in eight states. "You don't know what's in it," one concerned shopper said. "It makes me feel very scared, and I don't know what to eat." Related Stories The recall, which includes 21.7 million pounds of meat, is enough to make a McDonald's regular hamburger for every adult in America.The meat in question was made in late June and July. The E. coli in the hamburger beef began sickening people in August. It took nearly six weeks before the first recall was issued. six weeks before the recall was issued. "We don't understand why it took so long to recall this meat. If there was a victim in August, it should have been revealed weeks ago," said Jean Halloran of the Consumers Union. The U.S. Department of Agriculture, which oversees the industry, said there were no recall delays. However, when the first recall went out Tuesday, only a small amount was recalled. By the weekend, the recall was expanded by more than 600 times. and since then there has been another recall! http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/10333657.html E-Coli Surfaces in WI; Tainted Beef Blamed By Chris Lato Frozen ground beef patties produced at a plant in the Waukesha County community of Butler are making people sick from e-coli-related illness. The plant is owned by beef producer Cargill. The patties have been pulled off Sam's Club store shelves nationwide after four kids in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area became ill from e-coli. Now, there are three confirmed or suspected Yummy Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
ScottSA Posted October 9, 2007 Report Posted October 9, 2007 "...well I guess it isn't china and paint..." Wow, we're really on a self-hate trip today, huh? Quote
kuzadd Posted October 9, 2007 Author Report Posted October 9, 2007 "...well I guess it isn't china and paint..."Wow, we're really on a self-hate trip today, huh? No, I'm on a "wonder why no one talks about the garbage going on in our own backyard, just points fingers everyone/where else. Ecoli tainted beef , spinach and more, we got problems here and we can't blame China, for that. Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
Fortunata Posted October 9, 2007 Report Posted October 9, 2007 Don't you want to sometimes just go back to the way it used to be? In even my parents time but especially my grandparents' time, it was that everyone raised their own food or knew the people who did. They knew the butcher, the baker, the feedmill workers that ground feed for your cattle, untainted by other animal products. There might not have been the same amount of variety but what you did eat you did not have to fear. Quote
kuzadd Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Posted October 10, 2007 Don't you want to sometimes just go back to the way it used to be? In even my parents time but especially my grandparents' time, it was that everyone raised their own food or knew the people who did. They knew the butcher, the baker, the feedmill workers that ground feed for your cattle, untainted by other animal products. There might not have been the same amount of variety but what you did eat you did not have to fear. You know Fortunata, my Grandmother, who is a lovely, lovely woman, tells me beef, doesn't taste the same now as it used to. Now she has eaten meat for quite some time, what has changed , the cow? or the method of raising the cow? Quite obviously it is the method of raising the cow and the pig, and factory farming practices in general. Unfortunately, if this forum can be taken as an indicator, the populace doesn't seem concerned about the food we eat, unless it's from China! But we have had mad cow and probably still do, e-coli, salmonella and who knows what else, very little interest, it is quite sad indeed. Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
segnosaur Posted October 10, 2007 Report Posted October 10, 2007 You know Fortunata, my Grandmother, who is a lovely, lovely woman, tells me beef, doesn't taste the same now as it used to. Now she has eaten meat for quite some time, what has changed , the cow? or the method of raising the cow? You DO realize that its pretty much impossible to compare how things taste at different points in time (especially separated by decades). Quite obviously it is the method of raising the cow and the pig, and factory farming practices in general. Yes, farming practices have changed. That's probably because A) we want food produced as cheaply as possible (using fewer personnel and other resources), with a lot of consistency. Unfortunately, if this forum can be taken as an indicator, the populace doesn't seem concerned about the food we eat, unless it's from China! Perhaps that's because food recalls are actually very rare (when you consider how many different food products are on the market). But we have had mad cow and probably still do, e-coli, salmonella and who knows what else, very little interest, it is quite sad indeed. The reason why we have 'so little interest' is probably because the controls that we have in place DO eliminate the vast majority of risks. Frankly, you can never eliminate the problems of e-coli and salmonella. They're natural bacteria and will always be with us. (Can't blame 'factory farming' on those.) And mad cow is so exceedingly rare that you'd be more likely to be hit by lightning than catch anything from it. Quote
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