Shwa
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Yeah...that's what he said.
But you get the analogy right?
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None of the world's problems are caused by economists.
Except for the problems directly attributed to Marxism. And then there were the economists that were advising unproblematic people such as Stalin, Franco, Hitler and Mao. Etc.
First of all, things were a lot worse economically prior to modern economics.I am betting there is more than a passing influence in presentism and ethnocentrism in this statement. But tell me, when did "modern economics" start. Let me guess: the 1950's right?
People were much poorer and countries believed in invading to obtain scarce resources rather than trading.Other than poor being a relative term, surely you do not include petroleum in this scarce-resources/trading-only model? Oh, to return to simpler times when it was only bananas.
Secondly, any implementation of the suggestions of economists is bastardized by the influence of politics/nationalism.Well economics is a social science afterall, so who can blame the politics/nationalism from making their point? One could even say that politics has been bastardized by economists just as easily. Take Stalins economic programs in the Ukraine in the 1930's for example...
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Might be a good idea, after the budget is balanced... (which will happen after the cons are turfed out on their asses)
Ha-ha Battletoads, "after the budget is balanced"
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More moral than the countries who demand said asbestos and don't use it safely. No demand means no mining.
So you are actually for legalized heroin then?
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There's no tyranny of the financial elite, its a tyranny of a bloated govt. I'm 1% and i am certainly not calling any shots. What injustice is there, some people are more talented than others?
Interesting that you should say this without a qualification. Well, here's your chance. The government is bloated, because for the past 5 years or so, the CPC party - arguably the party that appears to be most friendly to the interests of the wealthy - has allowed it to swell.
Why do you think they have done this?
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Well lots of people around the world say being educated on things makes things better.
No shit Sherlock, good clue!
However I doubt a "crash course in economics" is going to solve the world's problems especially when plenty of them are caused by peeps highly "educated" in "economics."According to schiff's video, those kids looked frustrated and confused partly because they don't understand how economics works.As opposed to, say, politics?
Had they and most other people understand how economics works, things would run a lot smoother.
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Well Shwa and charter.rights were adamant that Occupiers Charter Rights included being able to camp there. I guess the reason is that they are breaking bylaws not criminal laws.
No, the right for occupiers to camp there would be tested against the Charter. Or are you intentionally misreading things again?
But since the ruling they've been pretty quiet.Is there more to say?
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Russia had no interests in Libya but they do with Syria
Can you provide some more information on this please? Like a cite or something?
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No problem, we can spend a billion on a new satellite, but not a billion to improve the country's infrastructure or health care, or education system or or or or ......
Well to be fair, it is half a billion. And to add, we already spend billions on infrastructure, health care and education.
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If NATO goes in, it's not for humanitarian aid, or because of their human rights issue. We can't be taking sides in a civil war. And with the Russian war ships off their coast, any attempted bombing run by NATO would be met with force by the Russians.
What makes you think that? I mean, where were the Russians when Libya was getting bombed?
True, it is a domino effect, but it's a planned effect. The west (specifically the UK and the US) have been planning and working to destabilize the Middle East and North Africa for almost a decade now, perhaps longer. None of this stuff happens overnight.Another way of looking at it is from a much larger perspective than a regional one.
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It won't. Syria has been in this situation since the Arab Spring started.
Syria's human rights record has been brutal for decades. Everyone knows this, but had other stuff to pay attention to. If the regime wants to keep opressing their population like this, we can arm them and let them duke it out and send in planes to support the rebels.
They've been having problems just as long as all the other countries going through this. Why are we suddenly paying attention now?Domino effect perhaps. Or perhaps it has something to do with their geographic disposition.
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Sure no one was every saying they have to leave during the day.
But they can't camp out anymore. Which was the whole point of this exercise in the first place.
Really? You thought the "whole point" of Occupy is about camping out?
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It seems like the contract was awarded to a Canadian company. So the US, saying, hey WTF, if you are going to use this, and we're awarding some of this to a Canadian company, how about kicking in a bit of change? So the Canadian government, seeing that a decent chunk of that change is going to be spread around the economy, went, sure man, here's half a bill.
Stimulus comes in many forms.
As for the secrecy, well, cat's out of the bag now innit?
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No one is fine with the killing, only idiotic psychopaths want war. These psychopaths are in the Dems, Libs, Neocons, Conservatives, ect ect ect.
Meh, I am not so sure. After the example in Libya, perhaps the Syrian government might be seriously weighing their options when the threat is placed at their doorstep. At this point, that threat could be motivation enough for them to change their tune.
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It would appear people on the Left are cool with Thousands of Civilians being slaughtered in this so called "Arab Spring" as long as it's not white Christians or Jews doing the killing.
It appears "people on the" Right are cool with making hasty generalizations from a single poster on MLW.
It's shocking how little press what's happening in Syria gets actually.Yes, that is odd. And it has been that way for decades.
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Where does it say that the protesters must leave? The Star is reporting that only the tents must go, but the protesters are welcome to stay and protest (during the day).
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No you don't use water cannons and riot gear on people camping out. The police were there essentially to keep things civil. The water cannons would embolden the protesters and inspire more to come out. It's like wilfrid Laurier and his Aesop fable about the sun and tube wind having a contest to take a man's coat off. They woud be better off letting them camp out and using people like Peter schiff to make them look like the fools they are. A crash course in economics would be far better than water cannons.
I don't want to go to 1968.
Peter Schiff is a rock star! All the way to the bank. And I think you are on to something Blueblood: all of the world's problems could be solved by a "crash course in economics." You should patent that. Make sure you give discounts for clients in Africa.
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Ummmm... this is satire right?
Does this sound like satire to you?
MissionDear friends, we are living in cruel days. Evil hours. Yes, these are certainly dark times and it’s time for the moral majority to once again step forward to bring freedom and liberty to the world.
Our culture was built on the guiding principles of conservatism and Christianity, from which all morality is born. As such American heritage was meant to be passed on from generation to generation, ensuring that our principles…our values…were never compromised.
But alas, the Left Wing Conspiracy and Liberal Agenda is spreading like a plague not only through our fine society, but through lesser cultures as well. Their sinful antics and attempt to pass off their wanton carnal desires into mainstream culture is destroying society and mankind.
That’s where we come in. Together, in this community, you and your Moral Leaders will combat the evil liberals of this world and once again ensure that a bit of freedom and righteousness once again permeates every country, and let those who don’t abide by our teachings know the eternal pit of hellfire shall be awaiting!
Sincerely,
Jack Gould
Youth Pastor/Motivational Speaker
Langley CC
It would have been completely absurd had I not heard it before, some of the sentiment expressed right here on our beloved MLW.
However, just in case, I am looking into purchasing 8k acres near Timmins for some Mexican relocation programs.
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And our Vengeance Minister Rob Nicholson says the Conservatives are "just getting started".
I can see the rationale behind thinking most of the really egregious chunks of the crime bill will go nowhere, because the judiciary and legal community simply won't stand for them, but all the same...why even go down this stupid road?
Because the angry old uncle is at the wheel and he isn't taking requests from the back seat.
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Yep, here's the divide right here: (warning, severe LOL ahead!)
Is Canada Hoarding America’s Natural Resources?
Are our politicians brave enough to embrace such a vision? Maybe the adoption of Canada by the United States needs to come from a Christian consensus. We should see the moral imperative at play here and voice our love, our desire to rescue these forlorn people and their bountiful land. There will be some Canadians who rebel against such passion, but time will win them over to the newfound glory as a province of the world’s greatest nation, fueling our rugged strength and moral fiber as we rush forward into this bright, new millennium. Indeed, our ultimate destiny is far greater than the borders of this simple continent and we must, with the Lord’s blessing, be ready.This was after the author suggested that our boreal forests and tundra would be an ideal setting for all those extra Mexicans that keep flooding into the US.
Hey, is that Jesus in Washington or some white hippy Occupier?
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today's situation does not resemble that of the late 19th and early 20th century,
Again, it depends on which analogies one is using as their model. Of course, Europe of the 17th & 18th centuries didn't resemble the late 19th and early 20th, and Europe of the 15th and 16th centuries didn't resemble the 17th and 18th, etc. Yet in all of those centuries they have managed to have some far reaching, almost continental conflicts. It isn't smart to extend a historical analogie into the future of course, but would anyone truly be surprised if European countries A & B went at European counties C & D for a few years.
and you can't isolate the inflation and depression 20's and 30's as the cause of ww2That is why I used the term "heart" to suggest a analogy of a body, which suggests interconnected parts. Likewise one cannot isolate and remove the economic causual component either.
it was much bigger than that probably closer to a 70years of nationalism, imperialism and militarismAnd at the heart of these causes, you will find ecomomic issues lurking close by. Especially with imperialism.
...britain and france were as guilty as germany for the 2 ww's...In all fairness, olp mentiones these countries alluding to a form of economic coercion.
yourself and olp1fan implying that because germany is involved it must revert to type and be involved in another war merely because they're germans is illogical...I am not saying that Germany must "revert to type" but that if there was a European War, it would be hard to imagine Germany staying out of it since they are situated somewhat in the middle of things. Now whether they would be the cause or even a chief combatant is neither here nor there, but history shows us that when push comes to shove the Germans are very resourceful of getting themselves into the game pretty quickly. I am not sure if this is the "type" you are referring to.
when it comes to blatant imperialism the germans are amateurs when compared to britain and france for starting wars...That was then, this is now. Imperialist aims within Europe - for any country - would not be a good sign. However, who knows, perhaps a modern state like Greece or Italy would agree to a period of consensual imperialism from the haves in the EU, until they get their houses in order.
if someone were to suggest historical as evidence for future aggression it would carry more weight if applied to britain and france than to germany...To be fair, olp mentions both France and England and suggests either could be an aggressor.
olp1fan-"if history tells us anything about the future it's not going to be good and Germany will become the enemy yet againCan't answer for olp, sorry.
shwa-"The Germans are very pacifist until they're not and they lack military power until they don't. "really shwa?Do you dispute that Germany would allow herself to be overrun militarily if it came down to it?
from olp1fan i'm not surprised but I've come to expect a high level of critical thinking from you...Again, I can't answer for olp.
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I guess your answer would be to have some of the MPs volunteer to quit to even out the Rep By Pop.
The first to bow out would be the approximately 15 extra MPs from the Maritime starting with 3 from PEI.
Hear that loud scratching noise?????????//
That's them writing their resignations now.
Sure it is
HaHaHahaHaHaHaHaHaHahahaHaHaHaha
You don't have to "guess" what my "answer would be" since I am making that plain in subsequent posts in reference to the article in the OP.
You, on the other hand are making simpleton assumptions based on, well, and understanding of the process that appears to be retarded. You may want to read the article and try and be a little more intelligent next time Tilter, as hard as that must be.
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your facts are meaningless without context and background
The context and background of the facts I cited are with the conflict itself, i.e. WWII, as described in popular historical narrative.
making predictions of war based on your's and olp1fan conclusions are based on superficial high school knowledge of historical dates but nothing deeperI never predicted a war, and you have no idea what my education background of historical knowledge is, so you are constructing a stawman. To me, that is intellectual laziness.
today's germany and europe bear no similarity to the european political, social or economic situation of the late 19th and early 20th centuryAccording to who's analogies? Your own? You'll have to do much better than that. Kind of like Chamberlain's epic fail and he had more than a high school's worth of historical knowledge and passing notion of current events.
there is as much chance of another european war now involving old antagonists as there is of cananda , britain and the usa re-fighting the war of 1812...which no chance at all...Firstly, let's clear this up. In effect you are saying there is no chance of a European War at all, ever, never again. That is forward thinking. I would like to agree with you. However, IF there is a European War, the chances are very high that the old antagonists will be involved. Not necessarily in the configuration of WWII, but in some configuration.
The reference to 1812 is a joke, obviously.
I am not saying that there will be a European War, but with the right kind of analogy, there are some pretty good reasons for people to be a little nervous about the implications of rampant inflation or a major economic depression since these events generally are associated with WWII.
What do you think the main preventative against war in Europe. Let me guess: the European Union?
"ewww watch out for those nasty germans they're going marching again because they did it before""I believe it is peace for our time."
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