Blackleaf

American kid asks daddy ... Q: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq? A: Because they had weapons of mass destruction, honey. Q: But the inspectors didn't find any weapons of mass destruction. A: That's because the Iraqis were hiding them. Q: And that's why we invaded Iraq? A: Yep. Invasions always work better than inspections. Q: But after we invaded them, we STILL didn't find any weapons of mass destruction, did we? A: That's because the weapons are so well hidden. Don't worry, we'll find something, probably right before the 2004 election. Q: Why did Iraq want all those weapons of mass destruction? A: To use them in a war, silly. Q: I'm confused. If they had all those weapons that they planned to use in a war, then why didn't they use any of those weapons when we went to war with them? A: Well, obviously they didn't want anyone to know they had those weapons so they chose to die by the thousands rather than defend themselves. Q: That doesn't make sense Daddy. Why would they choose to die if they had all those big weapons to fight us back with? A: It's a different culture. It's not supposed to make sense. Q: I don't know about you, but I don't think they had any of those weapons our government said they did. A: Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or not they had those weapons. We had another good reason to invade them anyway. Q: And what was that? A: Even if Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein was a cruel dictator, which is another good reason to invade another country. Q: Why? What does a cruel dictator do that makes it OK to invade his country? A: Well, for one thing, he tortured his own people. Q: Kind of like what they do in China? A: Don't go comparing China to Iraq. China is a good economic competitor, where millions of people work for slave wages in sweatshops to make U.S. corporations richer. Q: So if a country lets its people be exploited for American corporate gain, it's a good country, even if that country tortures people? A: Right. Q: Why were people in Iraq being tortured? A: For political crimes, mostly, like criticizing the government. People who criticized the government in Iraq were sent to prison and tortured. Q: Isn't that exactly what happens in China? A: I told you, China is different. Q: What's the difference between China and Iraq? A: Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Ba'ath party, while China is Communist. Q: Didn't you once tell me Communists were bad? A: No, just Cuban Communists are bad. Q: How are the Cuban Communists bad? A: Well, for one thing, people who criticize the government in Cuba are sent to prison and tortured. Q: Like in Iraq? A: Exactly. Q: And like in China, too? A: I told you, China's a good economic competitor. Cuba, on the other hand, is not. Q: How come Cuba isn't a good economic competitor? A: Well, you see, back in the early 1960s, our government passed some laws that made it illegal for Americans to trade or do any business with Cuba until they stopped being Communists and started being capitalists like us. Q: But if we got rid of those laws, opened up trade with Cuba, and started doing business with them, wouldn't that help the Cubans become capitalists? A: Don't be a smart-***. Q: I didn't think I was being one. A: Well, anyway, they also don't have freedom of religion in Cuba. Q: Kind of like China and the Falun Gong movement? A: I told you, stop saying bad things about China. Anyway, Saddam Hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's not really a legitimate leader anyway. Q: What's a military coup? A: That's when a military general takes over the government of a country by force, instead of holding free elections like we do in the United States. Q: Didn't the ruler of Pakistan come to power by a military coup? A: You mean General Pervez Musharraf? Uh, yeah, he did, but Pakistan is our friend. Q: Why is Pakistan our friend if their leader is illegitimate? A: I never said Pervez Musharraf was illegitimate. Q: Didn't you just say a military general who comes to power by forcibly overthrowing the legitimate government of a nation is an illegitimate leader? A: Only Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf is our friend, because he helped us invade Afghanistan. Q: Why did we invade Afghanistan? A: Because of what they did to us on September 11th. Q: What did Afghanistan do to us on September 11th? A: Well, on September 11th, nineteen men, fifteen of them Saudi Arabians hijacked four airplanes and flew three of them into buildings, killing over 3,000 Americans. Q: So how did Afghanistan figure into all that? A: Afghanistan was where those bad men trained, under the oppressive rule of the Taliban. Q: Aren't the Taliban those bad radical Islamics who chopped off people's heads and hands? A: Yes, that's exactly who they were. Not only did they chop off people's heads and hands, but they oppressed women, too. Q: Didn't the Bush administration give the Taliban 43 million dollars back in May of 2001? A: Yes, but that money was a reward because they did such a good job fighting drugs. Q: Fighting drugs? A: Yes, the Taliban were very helpful in stopping people from growing opium poppies. Q: How did they do such a good job? A: Simple. If people were caught growing opium poppies, the Taliban would have their hands and heads cut off. Q: So, when the Taliban cut off people's heads and hands for growing flowers, that was OK, but not if they cut people's heads and hands off for other reasons? A: Yes. It's OK with us if radical Islamic fundamentalists cut off people's hands for growing flowers, but it's cruel if they cut off people's hands for stealing bread. Q: Don't they also cut off people's hands and heads in Saudi Arabia? A: That's different. Afghanistan was ruled by a tyrannical patriarchy that oppressed women and forced them to wear burqas whenever they were in public, with death by stoning as the penalty for women who did not comply. Q: Don't Saudi women have to wear burqas in public, too? A: No, Saudi women merely wear a traditional Islamic body covering. Q: What's the difference? A: The traditional Islamic covering worn by Saudi women is a modest yet fashionable garment that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers. The burqa, on the other hand, is an evil tool of patriarchal oppression that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers. Q: It sounds like the same thing with a different name. A: Now, don't go comparing Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are our friends. Q: But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th were from Saudi Arabia. A: Yes, but they trained in Afghanistan. Q: Who trained them? A: A very bad man named Osama bin Laden. Q: Was he from Afghanistan? A: Uh, no, he was from Saudi Arabia too. But he was a bad man, a very bad man. Q: I seem to recall he was our friend once. A: Only when we helped him and the mujahadeen repel the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan back in the 1980s. Q: Who are the Soviets? Was that the Evil Communist Empire Ronald Reagan talked about? A: There are no more Soviets. The Soviet Union broke up in 1990 or thereabouts, and now they have elections and capitalism like us. We call them Russians now. Q: So the Soviets, I mean the Russians, are now our friends? A: Well, not really. You see, they were our friends for many years after they stopped being Soviets, but then they decided not to support our invasion of Iraq, so we're mad at them now. We're also mad at the French and the Germans because they didn't help us invade Iraq either. Q: So the French and Germans are evil, too? A: Not exactly evil, but just bad enough that we had to rename French fries and French toast to Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast. Q: Do we always rename foods whenever another country doesn't do what we want them to do? A: No, we just do that to our friends. Our enemies, we invade. Q: But wasn't Iraq one of our friends back in the 1980s? A: Well, yeah. For a while. Q: Was Saddam Hussein ruler of Iraq back then? A: Yes, but at the time he was fighting against Iran, which made him our friend, temporarily. Q: Why did that make him our friend? A: Because at that time, Iran was our enemy. Q: Isn't that when he gassed the Kurds? A: Yeah, but since he was fighting against Iran at the time, we looked the other way, to show him we were his friend. Q: So anyone who fights against one of our enemies automatically becomes our friend? A: Most of the time, yes. Q: And anyone who fights against one of our friends is automatically an enemy? A: Sometimes that's true, too. However, if American corporations can profit by selling weapons to both sides at the same time, all the better. Q: Why? A: Because war is good for the economy, which means war is good for America. Also, since God is on America's side, anyone who opposes war is a godless unAmerican Communist. Do you understand now why we attacked Iraq? Q: I think so. We attacked them because God wanted us to, right? A: Yes. Q: But how did we know God wanted us to attack Iraq? A: Well, you see, God personally speaks to George W. Bush and tells him what to do. Q: So basically, what you're saying is that we attacked Iraq because George W. Bush hears voices in his head? A. Yes! You finally understand how the world works. Now close your eyes, make yourself comfortable, and go to sleep. Good night. Good night, Daddy.

Americans also like to boast that their country "spreads democracy" around the world. But it does no such thing. It's not gonna bring democracy to Iraq. Also, whenever a country has a Communist government the US inades that country in order "to give that country a democracy," even though the Communist government was elected democratically. So, in order to promote democracy, the US destroys democracy. It also says that the French and the Germans are the Axia of Weasels because they opposed the war, even though their governments, quite democratically, listened to the majority of their people.

The US is only the 14th most democratic nation in the world. In the US, people can be punished for soeaking against the President. What kind of democracy is that? It's remiscent of Ceausescu's Romania. 1) John Clarke, an organiser with the Ontario Coalition Against Poverty (OCAP), was detained at the American border by immigration officials on his way to a speaking engagement at Michigan State University. A State Department agent drove in from Detroit and interrogated Clarke about his participation in anti-globalisation protests, about whether he "opposed the ideology of the United States." The agent presented a State Department folder on OCAP that included the name of a man with whom Clarke had stayed in Chicago, and leaflets from Clarke's previous speaking engagements in the US 2) A surburban New York judge asked Anissa Khoder, a US citizen of Lebanese descent, if she was "a terrorist" when she appeared in court over parking tickets. 3) In May 2002, 6 French journalists were stopped at Los Angeles International Airport, interrogated and subjected to body searches. They were detained for more than a day and expelled from the United States before they could reach their final destination - a video game trade show. 4) At a high school in Vermont, a uniformed police officer entered teacher Tom Treece's classroom at 1:30am to photograph a student art project that depicted "President Bush with duct tape over his mouth" and the caption "Put your duct tape to good use. Shut your mouth." Treece was removed from teaching his current events class. 5) A college student from North Carolina, AJ Brown, was visited by two Secret Service agents who questioned her about her possession of "Anti-American" material. Without inviting them in, Brown showed the agents what she assumed they came for - an anti-death-penalty poster showing Bush and a group of lynched bodies with the caption: "We hang on your every word." 6) North Carolina Green Party activist Doug Stuber was detained and questioned while trying to fly to Prague, then told that no Greens were allowed to fly that day. His interrogators showed him a document from the Justice Department that showed that Green were likely terrorists, and the Secret Service took a mug shot! Stuber was forced to tuen back. 7) CBS fired a producer of "Hitler: The Rise of Evil" for statements he made comparing the mood of America to that in Germany when Hitler ascended to power. What sort of democracy is that?

I never said that some countries traded more with the EU in WWII, because there was NO EU in WWII. But the EU is today a larger economic power than the US and some countries do the majority of their trading with the EU rather than the US. The EU is larger and richer than the US.

WWII is one of the reasons why Germany and Japan are economic giants today. After the war, their countries were in ruins, and they had to rebuild their economies, thus becoming the 2nd and 3rd largest economies in the world today.

As I said, European countries have OLD populations. The US has a YOUNG population. The UK, Germany and france will soon be overtaken by countries with younger and larger populations. China will be the world's largest economy by 2020, but that doesn't mean that it will be the dominant country, because the EU is less dominant than the US despite having a larger econonmy than the US. Also, the size of a country's population DOES matter in relation to the size of its economy. A country with a small population CANNOT have a large economy. India, with a population of a billion, will soon become the 4th largest economy in the world. But the US will become more dominant because its population and economy will be larger than they are now, whereas European countries will have shrunk in 2050.

http://free.freespeech.org/americanstatete...USNavyTurds.jpg And this is the country that they are supposed to be liberating!

Here are some quotes from American soldiers serving in Iraq - “We had a great day. We killed a lot of people. We dropped a few civilians, but what do you do? I’m sorry but the chick was in the way.” — Sgt. Eric Schrumpf cowardly sniper with the Fifth Marine Regiment March 29, 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- “I think they [iraqi people] thought we wouldn’t shoot kids. But we showed them we don’t care. We are going to do what we have to do to stay alive and keep ourselves safe. I did what I had to do. I don’t have a big problem with it but anyone who shoots a little kid has to feel something.” — Private Nick Boggs U.S. Army psychopath, war criminal Private Boggs was referring to his cold-blooded murder of a 10-year-old boy. Boggs fired his machinegun at the boy who fell dead on a garbage-strewn stretch of wasteland in Karbala, Iraq. Another little Iraqi boy of the same age was hit but not killed, and he dragged his friend’s dead body away. Boggs is a 21-year-old former hunting guide from Alaska. He claims the boy was reaching for a rocket propelled grenade. Nick Boggs is a goddamned filthy war criminal. If the stupid jerk wants to “stay alive and keep himself safe” he shouldn’t be invading other people’s countries on behalf of the oil companies. Then he wouldn’t have to murder 10-year-old boys and make excuses for it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- “The Iraqis are sick people and we are the chemotherapy. I am starting to hate this country. Wait till I get hold of a fuckin’ Iraqi. No, I won’t get hold of one. I’ll just kill him.” — Corporal Ryan Dupre U.S. Army psychopath, war criminal Actually, babykilling soldiers like Ryan Dupre, Eric Schrumpf and Nick Boggs are the disease, and a war-crimes trial followed by a firing squad would be a sure cure. But of course such justice will never happen in America, land of the military freak and home of the knave. There will never be any justice in this country until the satanic U.S. military/government is overthrown. Ryan Dupre was trying to ease his guilty conscience after his unit in the 3rd Infantry Division slaughtered seven defenseless Iraqi women and children. The innocent people were riding in a van, approaching an American checkpoint on a bridge near Karbala, when Ryan and his friends blasted them with cannon-fire from a Bradley Fighting Vehicle, totally butchering them. Two of the little girls were beheaded by the cannon-fire, right in front of their mother. Only one or two of the soldiers were horrified and remorseful when they saw all the butchered, bloodied children. Ryan Dupre and the other U.S. Army soldiers simply sneered at their mangled victims. This phenomenon of “blame the victim” is a universal psychosis in the satanic U.S. military. As reported in Censored 2000 by ProjectCensored.org, the U.S. military actually trains its sick recruits to murder and eat tame animals as a way to desensitize them to brutal murder and bestiality toward human beings. And as reported by Stan Goff, retired from the Special Forces, the U.S. Army also has its sick recruits violently break the legs and ribs of goats so they can practice first aid on broken bones. This is quite cruel to the suffering goats, so in an attempt to justify their unjustifiable evil, most of the recruits sooner or later resort to making disparaging comments about the helpless animals, sneering about how “worthless” they are and how they therefore “deserve” to be cruelly treated. This same psychopathic attitude is held by evil workers who slaughter chickens, cows and pigs in slaughterhouses. The slaughterhouse workers and U.S. military babykillers never have the courage to admit to themselves that it is obviously they who are worthless, inhuman beasts. They are involved in something totally evil, so they ease their twisted little minds by blaming the victim. The Iraqi women and children were fleeing the American bombing of their home town, Karbala. They had already been waved through one American checkpoint, so when they came to a second one they naturally assumed they could drive through that one too. The soldiers at the second checkpoint were supposed to fire a warning shot well in advance, but for some reason they failed to do so. As the van full of women and children approached, the stupid soldiers were afraid they might be suicide bombers, so they slaughtered them. The U.S. Army patted its babykilling soldiers on the head, of course, telling them they were perfectly justified and that it was the fault of the women and children in the van for getting themselves killed. After all, heroic American warriors have a perfect right to protect themselves from suicide bombers, don’t they? Of course it never occurs to these evil morons that they have no right to invade other people’s countries in the first place. No, as far as they’re concerned, Might Makes Right. There is no higher law for U.S. military personnel. They live in a very twisted fantasy world. Totally racist, they call Arabs “sand-niggers” and “ragheads” — and yet they convinced themselves that they invaded Iraq to “liberate” its people, a people they couldn’t care less about. A people whose children they murder in cold blood with no remorse. These uniformed brainless wonders were so thoroughly programmed by American propaganda that they actually expected the people whose land they invaded to welcome them with flowers and cheers! Later, for the benefit of the corporate “news” cameras, the U.S. military staged a few such scenes in Baghdad using Iraqi-exiles flown in from the U.S. and elsewhere. But the real Iraqi people did not welcome the racist invaders who butchered their children, slaughtered their sons, fathers and husbands, raped their women and occupied their country. Disappointed that the Iraqis were not as sick and twisted as themselves, U.S. military babykillers resorted to the basic training their dull little minds are programmed with: kill everybody indiscriminately. Mass-murder is perfectly okay with them, because their victims are all just “sand-niggers” and “ragheads” after all. U.S. military morons can’t see the humanity in their victims because they’ve murdered the humanity within themselves. It’s Vietnam all over again. The U.S. military is incapable of learning moral lessons because it is literally satanic. The United States military is composed entirely of heavily brainwashed, homicidal psychopaths. If these evil bastards did the exact same things out of uniform that they do in uniform, they would all be locked up on death row. That’s exactly where they should be right now. They are bona fide war criminals. And since they will not be arrested and locked up when they come back, it proves that American society in general is every bit as evil as its babykilling soldiers, sailors and pilots. http://free.freespeech.org/americanstatete.../Genocide2.html

The US CREATES terrorism. It funds organisations like the IRA, ETA and even Al Qaeda. An American company funded Al Qaeda. And it puts evil dictators INTO power, not just takes them out. It was the US that put General Pinochet into power. And the US gave Saddam his WMD's because the US used to be allied to Saddam. When Saddam gassed the Kurds to death in 1988 the US turned a blind eye, because it was Saddam's ally. Also, the gas that Saddam used was given to him by Reagan. Rumsfeld even met Saddam and shook hands with him in December 1983. So the US gives Saddam his WMD's, and then goes to war with Saddam to get rid of his WMD's!!!!

Since 1945 around 75% of all US foreign trade and investment has been with Western Europe and Japan. Today, those countries are amongst the richest, most prosperous and most economically and politically independent in the world. The more trade America has with a country, the better for that country. Those nations that spurn America are those that are poorest. These are the undisputed facts. You can try and twist them somehow, but you cannot ignore them. What a load of rubbish. The US is also rich because of its trade with other countries. If all the world disappeared and only the US remained, it would become poor, because it has no countries to trade with. So the US doesn't make other countries rich - we also make the US rich. And some countries in the world do most of their trade with the EU rather than the US. The EU is the world's largest economy and the largest market. And most EU countries do most of their trade with other EU countries and NOT the US.

Unfortunately, in 50 years' time, the US will be even MORE dominant than it is now. At the moment, only China, India and the EU have larger populations than the US, but the EU's population is declining (if you don't count the fact that ten new states have just been added to the Union). The population of the US is full of younger people, whereas the population of the EU is full of older people. The population of the EU now is about 450 million, compared to only 280 million for the US. But in about 2050, the population of the US will be 500 million, compared with abouy 300 million for the EU, and that is even if the EU covers ALL of Europe including the whole of Russia. So the US will have a LARGER population than the WHOLE OF EUROPE, even though now its population will be smaller. In 2050, the US will be even more dominant than it is now.

Isn't the US an independant country? Do you think that every foreign policy decision that the US takes is first agreed upon by a referendum or something? I don't think that those 300 million Americans are relevant to this thread any more than the 1.2 billion Chinese. I don't think the Government gives a referendun for every foreign policy decision that the US takes otherwise they would be having referendums every week.

The US only ranks 14th in the world for democracy. Ten European countries, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are more democratic than the US. http://www.worldaudit.org/democracy.htm