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Lol Dub proclaiming victory for himself yet again. Just like his buddies Hezbollah proclaiming victory after getting their country trashed in 2006 or Hamas after getting Gaza trashed in 2009. I guess terrorists and their supporters have something else in common.
bonam, you are lowering yourself to dancer's level by making comments like that.
all i have done is post information from investigations from human rights organizations.
i offer these investigations and reports and dancer offers his worthless opinion.
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Wrong. It's called missing.
so now you're speaking on behalf of the IDF? in many of the instances, IDF had said there were militants in the buildings, but the investigations of most of the incidents have proven that there weren't.
but i'm sure the IDF is glad that you're so quick to jump in there to give excuses.
Not if they look dangerous in a free fire zone.yes. the 300+ children are all dangerous. a woman walking out of a building waving a white flag is definitely dangerous.
i'm sure, even you don't believe your own bs.
If these and the other unsubstantiated allegation are true I'm sure You and Hamas would prefer they are caught in the cross fire. Remember article 28thanx for the babbling and pasting an article that doesn't relate to this matter.
ass kicked.
Did they find any?Luckily making up stuff is not covered by the GC
babbling again. ass kicked.
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Actually it does. That is the get out of jail free article. You would have to prove there were no terrorists in Gaza to make the article irrelevant in the case of the Israeli retaliation.
...I'm sure you will try though, I'm sure you will try
P.S I'm not sure what "proof any points" means....is that like claiming got all of it's prewar terrirtory back?
.....please elaborate
thank you for the prompt reply.
- when there is a hamas member in an empty building, shooting at the IDF, it doesn't give israel the right to shoot a missile at a residential building with occupants that is 2 streets over. when israel does that, they violate international law.
- when a woman with children behind her walk out of a building, waving a white flag, and they get shot at by soldiers, they're violating international law.
- when a group of civilians are forcibly held in their own home by IDF soldiers, and then the soldiers begin shooting from the home, thus, use them as human shields, that's a violation of international law.
- when IDF soldiers force civilians to go into buildings to check for booby traps or to tell hamas fighters to stop shooting, that's a violation of international law.
for many, these are simple to understand and accept, but for you, i'm sure it will take a bit of time to ponder and perhaps even understand.
i just kicked your ass again. now it's time for you to respond with more of your bs.
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I guess you have the type of learning disability that only constant repeation will suffice to correct.
lols.
you're not really expecting people to be as simple as you, do you?
pasting an article from the geneva convention does not win you arguments or proof any points. you have to see whether and how the article applies to different incidents. this is why these investigations are important and in many incidents during the gaza war the investigations and evidence have shown that israel violated international law.
ps - fat fingers? "repeation"?
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I don't make threats. But since you are being an absolute idiot about it. I am gonna have to report this now.
this is a threat:
I will ask you kindly to remove it pronto. I will give you by the end of the day.
please go ahead and report whatever you're going to report.
i just hope we can still be friends after all of this.
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Get back to me when you acknowledge their systematic use of human shields and their efforts to increase human suffering.
get back to me when you've done your own investigation to prove that all of these human rights organizations' investigations and conclusions about israeli war crimes are wrong.
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Dub, much thanks. And I advise you to think about this moment before you go do that kind of thing again. There are better ways to get your point across. You failed miserably on this one.
even though your "threat" and "the talking to" was cute, i didn't remove it.
it was flagged (probably by the hallway monitor, dancer) and removed.
regardless, stop being so sensitive. the only similarities was the nickname "Gosthacked", which is not your real name.
my point was well-received, i'm sure; an ad on craigslist is easy to post and using it to draw a conclusion like Riverwind and Gosthacked have is foolish.
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Then you should be reported. I believe a canadian model went to a lot of effort to find the identity of someone who was slagging her...I hope Greg has the foresight to prevent that kind of adolescent behavior here.
go and report me.
your hallway monitor personality prevents you from seeing that this was an example to show how easy it is to post an ad on craigslist and anything can be posted on there.
have you got around to reporting me to the copyright folks because i forgot to put quotes around a paragraph?
are you ever a sad case.
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You are a strange dude to go to all that trouble...
it might be a challenge for you, but it took me less than a minute to post that.
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A border that was never respected by its Arab neighbours, which invaded repeatedly, seeking to annihilate Israel. A border that it was up to Israel to defend, the supposed "givers" of that border doing nothing to enforce it. It has been up to Israel to define and secure its own borders, in the face of repeated and relentless invasions and attacks.
However, this thread is not about Israel's borders, but about the Palestinian people finally trying to improve their own situation, rather than wasting themselves in futile conflict. Perhaps they will eventually succeed and build a viable state and make peace with Israel. That must really enrage you dub, you'll lose your fodder for demonizing Israel if that ever happens.
you're making excuses bonam.
israel's border has been defined and recognized internationally. the rest is just a bunch of mumble jumble.
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Demonstrateble false. You don't care about Hamas' warcrimes and you like HRW.
you're typing misinformation again.
i have condemned hamas' rocket attacks.
you, on the other hand, have condoned israel's war crimes.
ps - what is demonstrateble? are you getting angry and punching the keyboard again?
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that's weird. look what i saw on craigslist.
it must be true: http://ottawa.en.craigslist.ca/cas/1341717543.html
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That will be done right after Israel solidifies her own borders in 2010. Makes sense to me. They will get whatever is left to claim as their own.
israel has already been given a border.
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Who care about HRW's erroneous conclusions?
erroneous according to your worthless opinion.
anyone who is not trying to apologize for war crimes cares about HRW's report and conclusion.
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It only suggests that to those who have no interest in Israel's ability to defend itself or are confused about the laws of war. In your case both apply.
If you need reminding the GC clearly states protected persons do not give a belligerent immunity from attack.
you're babbling just like a mouthpiece would.
you lie just like the IDF does.
- first, israel denied using white phosphorous and of course you jump on the bandwagon
- then, israel says it used it legally and within the laws of the GC when the evidence of its use became overwhelming
- then, israel's PR puts out a bogus statement, and floods press releases saying that the red cross has said its use was not illegal. of course, you were one of the first to jump in this.
- then, the red cross puts out a statement saying that it did no such thing.
- after an investigation by HRW, the conclusion was that israel used white phosphorous illegally.
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Israel suffers 13th swine flu death
August 24, 2009
JERUSALEM (JTA) -- An Israeli woman became the country's 13th swine flu fatality.
sounds like there needs to be another call to the flying rabbis.
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*Chortle*
HRW also accuses Hamas of putting Palestinians at risk by launching attacks from built-up areas.
*Chortle*
instead of quoting from the article, show me, in the actual report, where HRW has accused hamas of using people as human shield.
after that, show me all the evidence from the report where it's been concluded that israel has used people as human shield.
your foot is in your mouth.
Hamas has the ambulences, but were using them as troop carriers.where is the evidence of this? are you going to post another video from youtube from years ago as your evidence?
WP isn't illegal and if you think it is....the way it is used can be illegal and that's what the evidence suggests. you keep missing this simple point but i'll continue to shove it down your quivering throat.
No IDf personal have gone on record making that accusation. Mind you there have been people who anonymously claim to be IDF....of course they're not going to go on record while they're serving. plenty of former IDF members have gone on record to speak against the illegal actions by IDF.
There is no evidence of war crimes, only allegations.you seem to have the attention span is worse than a guppy's. there is a 100+ report from amnesty international outlining the evidence.
It is not an opinion piece, it was an address.same shit. kemp did not go to gaza and did not do an investigation like the human rights organizations have. the same organizations who have concluded that israel has committed war crimes.
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I think Israel would love to live in peace, but hasn't been allowed to by it's neighbors. They've certainly born a heavy burden in attacks by both neighbor nations and terrorists -- probably more so than any other nation in the world.
As peaceful as I think they would like to be, WWII put an end to any "turn the other cheek" sentiments. They will no longer allow themselves to be attacked and killed without a fight.
you're posting misinformation.
as a whole, the jews have not been the victims in the middle east. the jews have been the aggressors. i mean, you can babble all you want, but look at the situation today. who has the state? who has the guns? who is racking up the kill points? who is gaining land illegally?
what the europeans did to the jews is no fault of the palestinians.
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The point is obvious......baby bear.
what's the point?
only if we kill people then it's illegal? taking away their land and keeping them in an open air prison is A-OKAY?
consult with international law. the very same law that created the state israel 60 years ago.
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How many people are killed by an "illegal settlement" or "land annexation" ?
what's the point you're trying to make here, papa bear?
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In some cases you can. Border outposts are extremely useful for surveillance, checkpoints and buffers.
to me, it sounds like you're making excuses. have you seen the settlements in the west bank?
don't make excuses please. enough people here make excuses. the settlements are not there for self-defense.
do you agree with the internationally recognized illegal settlements or not? do you think it's okay that they're there or not?
The 'punishments' are not directed at palestinian civilians and it's foolish to indicate as such. They're directed at militants (Hamas etc) that insist on launching attacks from WITHIN civilian populations. When retaliatory attacks end up hitting civilians, the vast majority of the time it's because of Hamas' use of human shields. The civilians have Hamas to blame, and themselves. Hamas for hiding behind them, and the Palestinians at large for doing nothing to curb their militants.there were several human rights organizations, 7 of them from israel, who have accused israel of war crimes. a 100+ report was put out by Amnesty International after an investigation and it concluded that israel committed war crimes. unless you've done some kind of investigation after the recent gaza attack, then your opinion is trumped by the human rights organizations reports and conclusions.
International law is a subject generally open to interpretations. The land itself has no real and rightful sovereign owner, and it hasn't for almost 100 years.see, it's comments like these that leads me to believe that you're here to make excuses and apologizes for someone who violates international law. there are numerous UN resolutions that have stated that israel has violated international law. there is no open interpretation to the clear resolutions.
Two wrongs don't make right but the hypocrisy is galling when people focus exclusively on Israel's violation and ignore that they ARE INDEED being attacked and the other side is committing widespread violations themselves.i don't think anyone here and anyone who respects and accepts international law disputes that suicide attacks that happened before and the rocket attacks that has been happening recently are wrong.
however, for some reason, there are some here who try to apologize for and try to justify already recognized illegal actions by israel, such as the illegal settlements, land annexation both in the west bank and east jerusalem.
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Whatever you say...railing from the Great Northwoods. It's sad to be young and impotent, while old men have vigor and power. Eat your heart out, sucka!
maybe that's the only way you can get an erection but for me, i find other ways to get excited about the world.
after all these years and you still have a misconception of what power is.
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And I think you are a fool.....you have no idea how much money "my government" is "giving" to me (each month). I want to give more money to Israel just so they can buy all the Willy Pete they want....and lots of other "toys" too.
you're an angry old man who, after all these years, have not been able to let go of your teenage angst and your obsession with blowing things up.
move along. grow up.
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Cry me a river.....I don't know who gives a shit for biased fake investigations or conclusion by groups who haven't even a basic understanding of the laws of war...well you do.....but cry me a river.
Israel we keep on keeping on and you will keep snivelling and sounding like a clueless prat.
yes. we know. you don't give a shit about international law and you don't give a shit about israel committing war crimes.
supporting gandhi vs supporting bush
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the IDF has responded to several specific accusations of targeting buildings where no militants were present by saying there were militants present. amnesty has done a thorough investigation in many of these incidents and they've come to the conclusion that there were no militants present. so i'm only repeating what the IDF has said, so yes, i'm speaking on behalf of the IDF, where you're making shit up and making excuses without having a clue what you're trying to defend.
i base my comments on the report and specific incidents. you base your comments on justifying israeli actions by any means possible and without having any knowledge of any of the incidents and without having read any of the report.
all you're really doing is babbling nonsense.
this is the reason your ass is being kicked.