Lenny_Bruce

The carbon culture death wish.

Its now been several million years since C02 levels were this high. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/may/10/carbon-dioxide-highest-level-greenhouse-gas

Anti-Abortion, Not Dead get it?

Just read this thread, how could the posting of a Monty Python video be the equivalent of Hate Speech?

Well since they never tried doing either, its no surprise that they never got peace. Bush Cheney: Einstein hated the fact that he was always going to be associated with the Atomic Bomb. That was not a legacy he was happy about. I do not know how the Third World War will be fought, but I can tell you what they will use in the Fourth — rocks! Albert Einstein., in an interview with Alfred Werner, Liberal Judaism 16 (April-May 1949),

The most renowned scientist of the last century turned down an offer for the presidency. That's one of the coolest things about this Hawking move, Israel has been riding the Einstein image for so long, yet Einstein really had nothing to do with Israel at all.

Boges, I never meant to suggest that was their intent. I suggest they should do it, not neccessarily in their interests alone, but in the interests of Canada.

Have a look at the latest polls, the Cons are significantly behind.

Agreed again on both counts.

The Liberals and the NDP could make an agreement to merge for one election with the stipulation that they would put in place electoral-reform toward proportional representation, then they could split back into two again.

jbg, try reading what I actually said: Anti-Semitics is a meaningless and silly term as I've pointed out. Just as absurd is to call anyone who criticizes the actions of the Israeli government 'anti-Jewish.' That automatically assumes many things. (Don't assume. You know how the saying goes...) First it assumes that all Jewish people are Israeli (False). Secondly it assumes that all Jewish People support the Israeli Government (False) Thirdly it assumes that all Jewish Israelis support their government's actions (Also False). In fact its deeply insulting to the Jewish people to lump them all into one black or white category, when the Jewish people are a vast diverse mosaic of people complete with many differing views. Fourthly it assumes that anyone who criticizes the Israeli government's actions are anti-Jewish (Also False) To draw an analogy it would be like saying that anyone who criticizes Vladimir Putin's government is Anti-Russian. Or anyone who criticizes Canada's government to be Anti-Canadian. Of course that is an absurdity, but it works on a base level to get people riled up regardless of reality. The fact is, it is the basis of the democratic idea for citizens to be able to criticize governments, and to do so is not to synonymous with opposing any ethnic group, but to be opposed to the policies of a government. Those who don't question governments are not being PC. They are simply putting their blinders on and going against the democratic spirit. It is these types of people that are probably more likely to support authoritarian regimes. .

Rue I didn't elaborate further, because I didn't need to do so. The Kafkaesque absurdity of this is open in the blazing light of day on its own, but thank you for your excellent and accurate description of the current state of Russia. I agree fully.

Qualitatively I think Chretien was way better than the other ones listed and deserves to be in a different category altogether. I agree though, that all of them including Chretien were guilty of letting the free market corporatists get what they wanted without being in the best interests of Canada.

I'm new to this forum, but this is strange, I was given a warning for thread-jacking, and for posting off topic. The odd thing is that I had only posted on two threads all posts being directly on the topic of the threads, and both of the threads I had made. So how on earth could I have thread-jacked my own thread?

The problem I have with unite the right or unite the left, is the endgame is black and white dualistic politics without choice like in the States. Two parties to choose from, many of which people don't like to begin with. I'd prefer progressive electoral systems like exist in Australia, and Europe for example, where vote splitting is not a problem, and the demos actually gets representation instead of being led by a minority of the population in the Canadian system which is currently functioning as an oligarchy, (rule of the few) rather than as a democracy (rule by the people) by definition.

Don't worry Canada is just getting left behind as usual under the Neocons. Palestine now recognised by greater power than US or Israel – Google When the UN recognized Palestine as an observer state last November, Israel retaliated by announcing new settlements. Now an organization of arguably greater authority has recognized Palestine: Google. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/may/03/google-palestine-palestinian-territories The Winds of Change are blowing...

This might surprise you TimG, but humans are not the center of the universe, nor are we the center of life on Earth. It is no surprise with your disrespect for other species and nature, that your politics and environmental attitudes would be similar.

Stephen Hawking joins academic boycott of IsraelPhysicist pulls out of conference hosted by president Shimon Peres in protest at treatment of Palestinians Last week he wrote a brief letter to the Israeli president to say he had changed his mind. He has not announced his decision publicly, but a statement published by the British Committee for the Universities of Palestine with Hawking's approval described it as "his independent decision to respect the boycott, based upon his knowledge of Palestine, and on the unanimous advice of his own academic contacts there". http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/08/stephen-hawking-israel-academic-boycott?CMP=twt_gu

Roy Baty colour me shocked your views of the Middle East are formed by your friends from Tel Aviv. It doesn't surprise me at all that you've never been there, since you have absolutely no idea of the misery inflicted by Israel within its present borders and beyond. Your testimony is like someone in the 80s saying that they have friends from an upperclass neighbourhood in Cape Town South Africa who paint a rosey picture of the current situation in the whole country.

TimG: Most scholarly accounts of the crisis attribute the drift to war to an escalation that was unwanted,however despite a desire to avoid war on all sides, everyone was in the end responsible for making the escalation unavoidable.[71] Yeah wikipedia is pretty scholarly there Tim. What happened wasn't just an escalation it was Israel doing a blitzkrieg on their surrounding areas and keeping the territory it gained in a blatant land grab.

jbg I've made 3 threads. One is to do with Israel. You may consider the BBC and National Geographic to be crackpot, but they would just laugh at you. Lay off the booze.

Like Pearl Harbour.

Israel started and was the aggressor in the 6 day war.

:Interesting theory, but they didn't withdraw from the Sinai because they couldn't. They withdrew because of a peace treaty. " Its called Sueing for Peace. Israel was forced to give up the Sinai, because they had been defeated militarily by Egypt's armed forces in the Sinai. "I think I could get with your theory if they occupied parts of Lebanon in the conflict in 2006 but they completely withdrew. " As I said Israel is practical. They only have a few million, they do not have Japan's tens of millions. If you compare. Per capita expansion, the comparison would be quite apt. "I have no problem labelling Israel as a US puppet state. But without America's backing, I don't believe there's anyway the Jewish state could survive." That may be, but then Israel has to stop acting like the belligerent expansionist apartheid building bully, and actually be sincere about peace. The U.S. should not back Israel unless it does so.

Permanently? "They didn't take over Lebanon in 2006 did they?" Lebanon was not included in the list of countries that was mentioned, being Syria, Jordan, Iran and Egypt.