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Layton has never had a no problem with separatists. He had candidates in Quebec last election who were openly separatist, and some noted NDP types were advising Quebecers to vote for the BQ in order to keep Harper out.
Yah doesn't he look stuipd now. You know that Harper is caving to his every demand. What a terrible politician.
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So Bob will be the go to guy of the Conservative backroom this week. I am shocked. Incredibly, we learn from Bob that the NDP and the Bloc speak on the telephone thingys up there in Ottawa. Shocking stuff, this: "NDP, Bloc in coalition talks before fiscal update: tape." I'm partly sarcastic here, partly greatly ticked at the methods used here by the Conservatives. Barging in on an NDP conference call and taping it? This appears to be what the Conservatives did. So welcome to Harper's Canada where apparently hatchet thingys invade other party telephone calls, tape them and distribute to the media. Doesn't feel like my Canada. Feels like Nixon's or Rove's U.S.
Secondly...and? It's news that the NDP and Bloc have been speaking? In a minority parliament? How scandalous. The other parties outnumber the Conservatives and if the Conservatives aren't acting in a manner that the other parties agree with...then such discussions are entirely appropriate. It's appropriate to explore at any moment and lay the groundwork for alternatives in an inherently fragile parliament, which, contrary to Conservative spinning, it is.
Thirdly, desperate times apparently call for desperate measures. The Conservatives are spending their time plotting dirty tricks against opposition parties, not governing. Attempting to inflame Canadians. Very telling. Let them keep showing how they operate. The opposition should keep talking issues, deal with the distractions but keep this sideshow stuff in its proper place.
Fourthly, I wonder what a Conservative conference call sounds like? Oh to be a fly on the wall listening in on those discussions at the moment...something to keep in mind if you hear any tapes of party phone calls today.
From http://impolitical.blogspot.com/2008/11/br...ourtesy-of.html
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"After two years of planning a new future for the Canadian forces, the Conservative government today announced what it called the Canada First Defence Strategy.
The strategy is essentially the plan to replace six old and, in some cases, rusting pieces of equipment with new ones, which is what the Conservatives promised to do in the last election campaign, two and a half years ago.
Prime Minister Stephen Harper is promising to spend as much as $30 billion over 20 years to replace ships, vehicles, rescue and surveillance planes, and fighter aircraft. But not all of this is new.
In fact, planning for all of those projects has been under way for some time. In some cases, plans to purchase the equipment had been announced but then cancelled and then, in at least one case, reannounced when the Conservatives took office.
The prime minister said the Canadian Forces would be expanded to 100,000 soldiers, sailors and air crew, which is also a number already promised.
He also said the defence budget would be doubled in 20 years, which may happen. But defence spending, of course, is notoriously at the whim of whoever is in office."
-CBC
So they are basically giving us what he promised cancelled and now promised again. Thanks for that 3 years and wasted money later.
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This bill will help stop the artsy-fartsy film crowd from wasting my tax money producing crap films. Why should I have to pay for films about drug use and gays? :angry:
There is no censorship here. They can still produce their artsy-fartsy crap if they want. Good luck finding funding though.
Know what I wish, I wish the pro war kill em all and let god sort em crowd would stop wasting my money on bombs. So we can make a compromise my money will go to film and arts and your money will go to bombs and we will all be happy. You know cause the country belongs to about 30 million people not just you.
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Answer: Simple. Consumer preferences. People want more room, more gadgets, more everything. All this means more weight, which in turn needs more power. So while engines are far more efficient per unit of power output, people either want or need more of this power. A modern 4 Cyl produces as much power as many V8's from the 70's, yet consumes significantly less fuel. Whereas if you want to re-create that spartan, cramped feeling you felt in your 79' Civic, you could opt for a Smart FourTwo, and even than, you would have much better performance while getting 1.5 - 2 x the fuel efficiency.
*As per your 50-60 mpg, where? I'm quite sure that the Chevette of yesteryear was still in the 20's, though I would love for you to prove me wrong.
It isnt rocket science safety standards have made cars heavier.
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Since the NDP stands for socialist policies similar to the Liberals, I want nothing to do with either. The little bit of money I have left after taxes, I want to decide where to spend it, and it certainly won't be on expensive and unsustainable socialist policies. It was quite telling when both the Liberals and the NDP came out against tax cuts, because they supposedly had already made plans where that money and more should be spent.
Yah can you imagine making a plan to spend tax money. Wait we do that it is called budgeting I almost forgot.
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AIDS is primarily a gay disease here in NA. You did not know that?
By that logic we can say it is primarily French disease cause it is concentrated in Quebec in comparison to other provinces.
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Yes, I know they spread AIDS.
This is the dumbest thing you have said yet.
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Know why this tread is awesome? It is because all the left wingers are like let the market set the price of gas, and all the right wingers are saying government interference, regulate, and subsidize. HAHAHAHA I love it.
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No need to purge anything. Gays and feminists are misguided human beings. Once they learn how to be normal men and women again the battle is won. It is unfortunate that so many Canadians have bought into their ideologies. Like I said, much work for us to do.
There is no way you are serious.
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Great another I hate anyone who isn't white thread. Seeeeee this is good cause we can never get enough of those.
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This time, they truly would govern as if they had a majority.
They already are.
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Besmirching people appears to be a right wing thing.
Some posters don't like what they hear and personally attack or make outrageous claims.
BURN!
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Don't misunderstand me. I'm well aware that we have little or no control over what cards are dealt to us. However, we have total control as to how we play them.
Rae's government is despised not because of the circumstances they found themselves in but how they tried to handle them. They had wrong and boneheaded policy!
Why should I care that you hurl insults at Tories in my face? I don't have blind faith in a party. I'm willing to call a bonehead of ANY party a bonehead! I've switched my vote over the years from Liberal to Conservative, depending on how capable a crew one or the other is offering. It was always a vote for the best of the worst choices. I did have some enthusiasm when I could vote for Reform but after they merged with the Tories they very rapidly abandoned ALL of Reform's principles and became the Tory Party that I had bailed from, all those years ago with Mulroney and Campbell. They still appeal to me more than Dion's bunch of academics and losers. Perhaps Ignatieff will instill some fresh air, we'll see.
In actuality I guess I'm a Utilitarian Libertarian. The rights of the individual in the light of what is workable and practical. So far the NDP have never seemed a good match for my values.
Fair enough respect!
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Uh, the Tories didn't spend into the ground in the 80's. Once they righted the Trudeau recession of 1981-82, we had a prolonged period of growth and expansion.
I was pointing out the Idiotic statement about Bob Rea with a Statement about the Conservatives of the same period. The conservatives had the same problem in the NDP did a world wide recession. Do I blame the Tories for that, while I would like too I don't. I do blame them for a huge deficit the birth of the Bloc Quebecois and Reform Parties and the resulting division in our country. Cause it is clear from "the Bob Rea=everything wrong ever happening in Ontario" arguement, as I like to call, it if happened when you were in office and got better when you were gone we should never vote for that party again.
I am voting NDP f it.
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You'll have to forgive my skepticism. You see, I survived Bob Rae's NDP government here in Ontario.
Do you watch "Corner Gas"? They have a bit where whenever someone mentions the name of their neighbouring town everybody in the room spits on the floor!
That's similar to the reaction here in Ontario when someone mentions the NDP or Bob Rae, except for the usual small cadre in the heart of old Toronto. No one pays any attention to them because Toronto has absolutely nothing in common with the values and culture of the rest of Ontario, or Canada for that matter.
Or maybe even the rest of the planet!
Ohhhhh I will forgive you see I lived through the Tories spending Canada into the ground in the 80's so I understand where you come from.
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This is what the NDP never seem to get! They take the efficiency of government for granted.
If you and all your neighbours needed a park built in your neighbourhood you'd pass the hat to come up with the money. Some poorer folks might contribute in labour. It's like the old barn-building bees in pioneer days. Let's pull a number out of our collective butts and say that the park would cost $10,000.
Now, if the government says it will build us a park things are quite different. First, there are at least a few hundred thousand dollar reports that must be done, to see if we truly want a park, if the park will be ecologically a benefit to the community and most important
how to build the park so it will withstand earthquakes and tornadoes, even if it's not in an earthquake or tornado zone.
The work must all be done by CUPE contractors, even if they cost double what other firms will charge. Some of those contractors will have connections to various politicians, of course. Money will change hands both ways.
When all is said and done that $10,000 park will likely cost somewhere around a million and a half! Where will the money come from? TAXES, OF COURSE!
Please don't even try to deny that's the way the system works. I'm 55 years old and have been watching this time after time after time for my whole life! You might as well try to convince me that the sun rises in the west.
This is why I could never vote NDP. They live in dreamland.
http://www.fin.gc.ca/toce/2005/frt_e.html
The report shows that NDP governments have balanced the books 46 per cent of the time.
Liberals have the worst fiscal record overall. Liberal federal, provincial and territorial governments have posted year-over-year budget deficits an astonishing 79 per cent of the time.
Conservative governments have only a slightly better record than the Liberals, logging deficits 65 per cent of the years in which they’ve been in power.
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That is a small c conservative point of view and a good one. The NDP would raise spending and taxes.
See I am ok with that becuase if you raise spending you should raise taxes. Seems like the big C conservatives don't get that.
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Sorry, I can't resist.
Define "sound" money. And business cycle - what's that? Women menstruate but female cats don't. Why should economies have a "cycle"? Are economies female - but not female cats?
Zachary, we use money, sound or not, to trade. The world is a better place if more people can trade and cooperate. If money helps us trade and work together, then money is a good thing. I don't see any cycle in this. Can you?
The guy is a libertarian what he means by sounds is money either back by something like gold so every bit you have floating out there you have some gold in a vault somewhere saying it is worth something. OR You actually just use gold as your money. NOOOOO THANK YOU.
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I refuse tax cuts with out spending cuts it is just doesn't work which is what I don't get is happening from our shitty minority government. That is not a Dig the Conservatives either, even though I vote NDP, this stupid minority government and that includes all parties are promising us the world and then cutting taxes it is stuipd.
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Looks like we're in for a few lean years. The Bank of Canada is now saying that we can expect at least 2 years of near zero growth. Fortunately, we have some elasticity built into the system. Anybody care to guess what it might be?
Is it that we saved up in the previous years, and cut all the excess spending as to have money to spend in the down times. Wait no wait our government has made it do we will surely have a deficit in the coming years.
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No way the world has some NDP and Greens too.
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Finally someone with a brain. Almost all candidates will say that a good part of being successful at the local level is having their constituents agree with what's going on at the National level.....therefore in addition to their own local advertising, it makes sense that they run some "National Ads" that have their own personal name attached to them. Is it really the job of Elections Canada to tell the local candidate what he is allowed to advertise? Absolutely not - that's an affront to democracy. The fact that the Conservative Party "orchestrated" this among many candidates is simply good use of available budget maximums - whether they be local or national. Just because a Local Candidate has a budget ceiling does not mean that they actually have all that money - it depends on how good they are at fundraising. If they have room in their budget but no money to pay for advertising, the Conservative party "lends" them the money, then takes most of it back to pay for the Ad. It doesn't come from the taxpayer. What does come from the taxpayer is the claiming of those amounts as election expenses and quite frankly, I see nothing wrong with that. When all is said and done, all the Conservatives have done is max out their National and Local budget maximums. Makes perfect sense to me.
National and Local funding limits are separate so there is not area targeting. Otherwise a party could target local markets and split the county into tiny pieces. Look at the Bloc for a good example of this do you want them to be able to spend more there saying they could be spending it in Alberta cause they haven't reached their cap there. There is a reason for this otherwise there would just be a general Cap for spending limits and not separate Local and National caps.
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Thanks for adding..............nothing.